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wright1
03-05-2008, 08:26 PM
Hi Chaps, I have seen a JS2 bass in natural mahogany with the carved top and chrome hardware standard short scale in good condition. Please all sit down away from any instruments and sharpe objects. This store wants 1895. That's UK pounds. With todays exchange rate that's around $3790. This seems a little 'expensive'. What does anybody think about this price? Is it reasonable? Please let me have your thoughts about the true value on the ground so to speak. I paid $1600 for my S-100 reissue which I thought was fair as they are quite rare in the UK. A new '61 SG would cost about $2250 and a SG bass about $1650 in the UK to give you some idea for comparison.
Thanks for your comments, Steve.

The Guilds of Grot
03-05-2008, 08:52 PM
I'd say that stateside, a "acorn and leaves" JS Bass would go between $1000 and $2000 depending on condition.

That's my $.03

coastie99
03-05-2008, 09:03 PM
'allo London. (Night'awk calling !)

English prices seem appalling, as do Euro prices that I see at various sites.

I'm just curious to know what duties/taxes apply if you were, for example, to purchase on Ebay ex U.S.

I've just done a currency conversion, and 1895 pounds translates to US $3770 and change.

Now, I wouldn't know a JS2 if it leapt up and bit me on the bum, but my guess is that that's pretty damn' expensive by U.S. standards.

Doesn't it give ya the screaming ****es, that the Yanks (and Southerners) have ready access to so many bargain guitars !!!!

capnjuan
03-05-2008, 09:08 PM
Hi Chaps, I have seen a JS2 bass in natural mahogany with the carved top and chrome hardware standard short scale in good condition .... This store wants 1895 / $3790. Hi Steve; are you familiar with the expression 'hose job'? Last summer, I helped a Euro LTG BBer buy and tranship a bass to Europe - the freight was $100-$120 w/ insurance. I don't know what UK import taxes might be but between Guilds O' Grot's high-side estimate of $2,000 for a top of the line Guild bass and $3790, UK import taxes would have to be an even more incredible hose job for you not to be looking in the US market; eBay / GBase whatever.


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Jeez; '****es'....a Foreign Language as English... :wink: Hi Coastie!

coastie99
03-05-2008, 09:20 PM
Jeez; '****es'....a Foreign Language as English... :wink: Hi Coastie!

Gidday Miami.

Allows me to say "s#@t" with impunity !

Well, how about Steve's English....... "Hi chaps"

"Tally-ho, chocks away, eh what !"

Surely chaps are them there things that cowpokes wear ?

The Guilds of Grot
03-05-2008, 09:23 PM
Now, I wouldn't know a JS2 if it leapt up and bit me on the bum.
Here ya go Coastie!

http://guildsofgrot.com/images/full_size/Basses/1974bJS-IIC.jpg

Man you almost have me feelin' guilty for livin' in the good ol' U.S. of A. 8)

I do enjoy the international flavor here at LTG though!

capnjuan
03-05-2008, 09:26 PM
Jeez; '****es'....a Foreign Language as English... :wink: Hi Coastie! Gidday Miami. Allows me to say "s#@t" with impunity ! Well, how about Steve's English....... "Hi chaps" "Tally-ho, chocks away, eh what !" Surely chaps are them there things that cowpokes wear ? They are my friend but the whey I see it, I've been called worse things than cowboy outer wear! Pip pip! J


Wow Kurt - what a beauty! It doesn't bite on the bum does it?

The Guilds of Grot
03-05-2008, 09:34 PM
It doesn't bite on the bum does it?
Only if you don't know what it is! :wink:

Now what was that about chaps?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41YjVxMNjOL._SS500_.jpg

coastie99
03-05-2008, 09:39 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41YjVxMNjOL._SS500_.jpg

Oh, the S-100 bass.

Seen your matching pair Grot; real sweet !

Well, I sure dig those chaps. Not too sure about what appear to be the rent-a-**** though !

wright1
03-05-2008, 10:30 PM
Hey Coastie, I will say this only once! My Inglish is jus fine fanks. No plums here. I am a London lad, Tottenham Hotspur supporter, born within the sound of Bow Bells on a very windy day(well you could certainly hear St Pauls from Charing Cross!!).
Grots has the right idea on 'Chaps'! Can't get my wife to wear them though.
The picture is exactly what I have seen with maybe a slightly lighter colour(sorry color).No! The bass!! Thanks all for confirming what I had thought that the price was way too high for this bass. Prices in Europe are far too high considering the current $ rate but the dealers are still trying to squeeze customers by putting the frightners on them about taxes,duty and freight charges. Also US manufacturers do no favours when exporting. Not only does any warranty disappear but prices are kept high to distributors.Keeping new prices high keeps 'vintage' prices high too.It was not too long ago I was in the 'trade' with percussion,drums etc and it gives you an insight into what goes on.

Thanks to all you geezers and gals.

capnjuan
03-05-2008, 10:36 PM
.... It was not too long ago I was in the 'trade' with percussion,drums etc and it gives you an insight into what goes on. Thanks to all you geezers and gals. Hi Steve; in the 'trade', did you ever run across a guy named DrumBobSquarePants? Good luck w/ the search ... and for a bass too and welcome. cj

coastie99
03-05-2008, 10:43 PM
Hi Steve; in the 'trade', did you ever run across a guy named DrumBobSquarePants? cj

If affirmative, "Graham" is standing by, eagerly awaiting your PM !

No, you berk; not your Prime Menstrual, that's private message !

Toodle pip.

wright1
03-05-2008, 11:19 PM
CJ,Do you mean Bob Henrit?
Coastie,you ain't a cockney are you? You do know what a Berk is eh?

capnjuan
03-05-2008, 11:35 PM
CJ,Do you mean Bob Henrit? Maybe; does he wear square pants and go by the handle DrumBob? We had a drum-guy here several months ago; can't say if he ever disclosed his last name. According to him, he was somehow a part of the drum biz although in his 'Hi everbody' intro, he failed to mention it. Do you know him?

fronobulax
03-05-2008, 11:57 PM
Hi Chaps, I have seen a JS2 bass in natural mahogany with the carved top and chrome hardware standard short scale in good condition.

Greetings.
I am the original owner of a '71 JS II and I have told my kids they need to hold out for at least $1,000 when they sell it to Grot because I beat him into the nursing home. I'd never pay a premium for the carving but I'd guess it it could add another $250-$500. Case is maybe $200, so the price you have seen does seem over the top compared to my $1,700. That said, I get the impression that just about any vintage guitar will be listed for twice the "U.S price" in Europe. That said again, consider the source. There is at least one U. S. dealer listing a 60's Starfire for about $4,500 which is about $2,500 more that I think that specimen is worth. You may just have a dealer who is listing a high price to get the inquires limited to the serious ones.

coastie99
03-06-2008, 12:08 AM
CJ,Do you mean Bob Henrit?
Coastie,you ain't a cockney are you? You do know what a Berk is eh?

No mate, but I've seen all the TV programmes, and read all the books.
And, since I'm 57 I was "brought up" English, as it were.

No, I don't know specifically what a "berk" is, or from where it derived.

Perhaps I should have said that I didn't care for Miss Chaps' threepennies !
That would have had the Yanks (and Southerners) guessing !

coastie99
03-06-2008, 12:12 AM
. You may just have a dealer who is listing a high price to get the inquires limited to the serious ones.

Good point Frodo !

Don't want the riff raff messin' with our Guilds !

capnjuan
03-06-2008, 12:56 AM
... Perhaps I should have said that I didn't care for Miss Chaps' threepennies ! That would have had the Yanks (and Southerners) guessing ! ... including those in southern FL where Cracker is the prevaling dialect ... y'all.

Dreamlander
03-06-2008, 03:10 AM
I paid $900 for my 1975 JSII in black that is in mint condition. I would say try to find one in the States and get them to ship it to you.

coastie99
03-06-2008, 03:13 AM
... Perhaps I should have said that I didn't care for Miss Chaps' threepennies ! That would have had the Yanks (and Southerners) guessing ! ... including those in southern FL where Cracker is the prevaling dialect ... y'all.

Well Miami, here's the real edumicative bit !

In the old days (before the war), before decimilization, there was (in civilized countries), pounds shillings and pence.
There were 20 shillings in a pound.

By now, you should be gripping the edge of your seat in fascination !

A shilling consisted of 12 pennies (pence), or 2 sixpences, or 4 threepences.

Threepences were also known as threepenny bits.

Can you stand the excitement ?

Now, can you spot the rhyming link between "threepenny' (bits), and the extrusions on Miss Chaps ?

Hence: "Cor, hasn't she got a nice pair of threepennies !"

Wasn't that easy ?

Threepenny by the way, is most commonly pronounced "thrupennny".

wright1
03-06-2008, 09:19 AM
Ah Coastie, don't start talking REAL money. I too am in my best years and I still get told off for converting NEW Pence into pounds shillings and pence. Remember when one could buy goods in Guineas old bean? I won't reveal the berk meaning but lets just say it is part of cockney rhyming slang for swear words! Most people use it instead of idiot or twerp or twit. Have you noticed how these threads make some serious diversions?

capnjuan
03-06-2008, 01:57 PM
... Well Miami, here's the real edumicative bit ! In the old days (before the war), before decimilization, there was (in civilized countries), pounds shillings and pence. There were 20 shillings in a pound. By now, you should be gripping the edge of your seat in fascination ! A shilling consisted of 12 pennies (pence), or 2 sixpences, or 4 threepences. Threepences were also known as threepenny bits. Can you stand the excitement ? Now, can you spot the rhyming link between "threepenny' (bits), and the extrusions on Miss Chaps ? Hence: "Cor, hasn't she got a nice pair of threepennies !" Wasn't that easy ? Threepenny by the way, is most commonly pronounced "thrupennny". As ever, thank you for the translation. Not sure what the girlie breast biz is like in NZ but, based on trips to our local malls, it's growing here in So FL. Low female self-esteem is the best thing that could have happened to the Plastic Surgery biz; all the little wankettes can look like pros spinning on the fire poles ....

The Guilds of Grot
03-06-2008, 02:46 PM
Have you noticed how these threads make some serious diversions?
That's what we specialize in here!

Have you meet your fellow countryman Jerry R. yet?