2024 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Nominees

[ReevesRd]

Mary J. Blige, Mariah Carey, Cher, Dave Matthews Band, Eric B. & Rakim, Foreigner, Peter Frampton, Jane's Addiction, Kool & the Gang,
Lenny Kravitz, Oasis, Sinéad O'Connor, Ozzy Osbourne, Sade, & A Tribe Called Quest

I never really felt like rap and hip-hop were rock & roll. But nobody asked me.
I can appreciate most of these nominees.
My top five are Cher, Foreigner, Peter Frampton, Kool & the Gang, & Ozzy Osbourne.
Who would you vote for?

 

[walrus]

IMO, it's not really the "Rock and Roll" Hall of Fame, so I don't usually pay much attention. The list of nominees for 2024 is solid evidence of that. They really should just change the name to the "Music Hall of Fame" or something that would be more accurate.

If you give me a vote, I'd go with Peter Frampton.

 

[twocorgis]

Proof that the Hall still sucks, even without Jann Wenner.

 

[Brad Little]

George Noory, who replaced the venerable Art Bell after his passing, on the late night Coast to Coast AM show, has in the past, and probably still does, advocated Pat Boone for membership in the RnR HOF. If anything, he belongs in the "look how much money I made stealing R&B music from their creators" HOF. If he ever even gets nominated, it will be worse than anything so far, and that's saying something.

 

[Boneman]

They seem to feel compelled to always be nominating someone every year, but in my opinion there really aren’t that many acts left to induct after all the major players have already got in. I mean not every musician is a hall of famer in rock and roll but this list begs to differ.

To me, I only see Ozzy as a viable inductee out of that list. The others have good songs and are fairly well known, but not HOF worthy.

 

[walrus]

+1 on Ozzy, but I think Frampton (don't forget his work in Humble Pie) is a valid candidate, too. But we are making an assumption that anything the RandR HOF does makes any sense!

 

[Harp Tail]

IMO, it's not really the "Rock and Roll" Hall of Fame

No matter what the original intentions were (which I'm sorry I never discussed in depth with Frank Barsalona when I had a chance to), it's been turned into a business just like anything else.

I'd say it's safe to say Sade, Mary J. and Mariah Carey never had much to do with rock and roll... and what about Erik B. & Rakim?

Eric B. & Rakim - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Uke]

Mary J. Blige, Mariah Carey, Cher, Dave Matthews Band, Eric B. & Rakim, Foreigner, Peter Frampton, Jane's Addiction, Kool & the Gang,
Lenny Kravitz, Oasis, Sinéad O'Connor, Ozzy Osbourne, Sade, & A Tribe Called Quest

I never really felt like rap and hip-hop were rock & roll. But nobody asked me.
I can appreciate most of these nominees.
My top five are Cher, Foreigner, Peter Frampton, Kool & the Gang, & Ozzy Osbourne.
Who would you vote for?

Look out Prince of Darkness: Mariah's "Back" !

 

[Uke]

there really aren’t that many acts left to induct after all the major players have already got in.

Absolutely!

 

[Boneman]

+1 on Ozzy, but I think Frampton (don't forget his work in Humble Pie) is a valid candidate, too. But we are making an assumption that anything the RandR HOF does makes any sense!

Frampton for sure based on the others they've already allowed in, true, I was just thinking in the arc of the genre since the 60's to now, who was relevant the entire time?

 

[Prince of Darkness]

Look out Prince of Darkness: Mariah's "Back" !

Oh well, at least the other Prince of Darkness is there as well I'm rather shocked that he wasn't already in, though of course he is there with Black Sabbath

 

[Westerly Wood]

Janes Addiction. Man, that band rocked.

 

[Midnight Toker]

Whenever the topic of who should or who shouldn’t be in the R&RHOF based on genre comes up, I always tend to think a lot of that stems from emotive protectionism of a person’s fav type of music, and it not always entirely rational. First off, most complaints tend to come from devout hard rock/metal fans who think of R&R as requiring electric guitar, bass, drums, when it’s real roots are actually more piano,sax,upright bass. The “founders” are actually linked more closely to Mary J Blige and Mariah Carey than they ever were to Metallica or Black Sabbath. Jerry Lee Lewis and Little Richard had every right to complain about metal bands getting in the hall the exact same way folks complain about hip hop today. Just saying.

Over the last few decades, I’ve succumbed to letting the term Rock and Roll be an umbrella designation where practically any music that is youth driven that has the ability to scare and piss off older generations warrants classification. After all, Rock and Roll also constitutes a spirit…or attitude, not just a musical sound/identity. Often being openly anti establishment. Everything else is just a sub genre. From Metal, punk, hard rock, soft rock, disco, new wave, alternative, and yes, even hip hop. If kids are listening, you’re over 50, and you don’t like it, it can probably be filed in the rock and roll dept in it’s own sub genre.

 

[Midnight Toker]

They seem to feel compelled to always be nominating someone every year, but in my opinion there really aren’t that many acts left to induct after all the major players have already got in. I mean not every musician is a hall of famer in rock and roll but this list begs to differ.

To me, I only see Ozzy as a viable inductee out of that list. The others have good songs and are fairly well known, but not HOF worthy.

I think there are still lots of bands the Hall (likely Jan Wenner personally!) has snubbed over the decades. When it comes to Prog Rock and Metal, the Hall has grossly underrepresented those categories. The list of essential bands that were/are very popular and very influential to those in their wake is pretty damn staggering!

I find it most sad that many of the older acts have members dying off that now if they do ever get inducted it will be nothing more than bittersweet (too little too late) w/ no ability to be included in any of the live performances.

 

[walrus]

No matter how you look at it, there ain't no way Mariah Carey is Rock and Roll, although she is "scary"!

 

[Midnight Toker]

No matter how you look at it, there ain't no way Mariah Carey is Rock and Roll, although she is "scary"!

I agree.

And at the end of the day, it all honestly just boils down to a popularity contest geared towards max fund raising potential. The HOF awards ceremony, not unlike the Kennedy Center Honors events…are 100% fund raisers that keep these entities afloat. When you watch these events, the inductees are all guests, but it’s not like they even get a +1 for their own spouses/family! Those tables go for $1500 a seat/ 10K per table! At the Kennedy Center, standing room is $450. A balcony box on the 2nd tier where the President sits goes for 5k plus a seat…25k for the whole box. Seats on the floor start at $2k in the back and work their way up to $7.5k in the front. And the preshow dinner is also 1k per plate. I get an “invitation” every year, and every year I gasp at the price list on the order form.