60th Anniv. F 30

[Rayk]

I might of missed something but could you not put a spot of JB weld of other type of adhesive in it ?

 

[twocorgis]

Stew Mac has always stood behind their products. I buy from them often enough that it's worth paying for the "free" shipping, which applies to whatever you buy for a full year.

A few years back, they replaced some tool that I bought, which was not exctly defective -- just a little wonky. I could have lived with it, but I wrote them just to make sure I was using it correctly.

They insisted on replacing it, for free, and I had it within three days.

(And for many projects, Dan Erlewine's videos are invaluable.)

With the ghastly amount they charge for most things, that's probably the least you could expect! They recently sent me an offer of a free StewMax membership with any purchase, and it seemed like a great deal until I almost keeled over looking at some of their prices for what are otherwise pretty basic tools. Even my luthier thinks they're overpriced, and just uses them for things that he can't get elsewhere. I ended up buying a hat for $20, and some guitar box inserts for $3 each (thanks to @richardp69 for the heads up on the inserts). Might have been the best deals on the whole site!

 

[adorshki]

Maybe a happy ending here. I tried to find the Waverly home page to talk to them about my issues but just couldn't find it. Then Sandy told me they were owned by Stew Mac. I contacted them thru Reverb and they responded right away, I mean within 30 minutes. It looks like they will be sending me replacement tuning machines at no cost. Not sure if it will be the four that are or seem to be bad or an entire set but I'm grateful for their help.

It's nice when a company stands up, does the right thing and takes care of their customer. Hopefully, it all works out ok.

And thanks for making sure the goodwill gesture was appropriately publicized.

 

[adorshki]

I might of missed something but could you not put a spot of JB weld of other type of adhesive in it ?

Plastic or wood-to-metal? Couple of the toughest bonds for any glue.

 

[twocorgis]

Plastic or wood-to-metal? Couple of the toughest bonds for any glue.

I think the knobs are real wood, so wood to metal. I'm not an adhesives expert, so I don't know what might be best.

 

[adorshki]

I think the knobs are real wood, so wood to metal. I'm not an adhesives expert, so I don't know what might be best.

BOTH of 'em are very problematic was my point, due to trying to mate a porous to a non-porous material. (Almost) anything strong enough to bond to metal usually dissolves anything "softer" or can't bond to porous materials. Superglue can't harden in presence of air for example, so can't bond wood or most plastics to metal because those materials are too porous to permit hardening or else suffer chemical breakdown.

 

[twocorgis]

BOTH of 'em are very problematic was my point, due to trying to mate a porous to a non-porous material. (Almost) anything strong enough to bond to metal usually dissolves anything "softer" or can't bond to porous materials. Superglue can't harden in presence of air for example, so can't bond wood or most plastics to metal because those materials are too porous to permit hardening or else suffer chemical breakdown.

The thing is, they had to use some kind of adhesive to make them, so there must be something out there. I find that Gorilla Glue covers a multitude of sins, but you have to use it very carefully!

EDIT: a quick search indicates that epoxy is best for the job.

 

[adorshki]

The thing is, they had to use some kind of adhesive to make them, so there must be something out there. I find that Gorilla Glue covers a multitude of sins, but you have to use it very carefully!

EDIT: a quick search indicates that epoxy is best for the job.

Thought you said they were press fits? Or was that a different tuner?

 

[twocorgis]

Thought you said they were press fits? Or was that a different tuner?

I have no idea, but even if they were press fits, there's probably some kind of adhesive involved. My luthier would probably know.

 

[adorshki]

I have no idea, but even if they were press fits, there's probably some kind of adhesive involved. My luthier would probably know.

Truth to tell I would have expected that too. Think I just got the wrong impression.

 

[richardp69]

Got my 60th Anniv. back from my local Luthier. New tuning machines from Stew Mac lined up perfectly. No new drill holes/ Yeah!!!

 

[chazmo]

Pics when you have a chance, Richard! Especially the front/back of the headstock.

 

[SFIV1967]

I didn't think New Hartford ever used Waverlys, but it sure looks right.

The Guild spec sheet from 2013 for those tuners read: "Gold Waverly Tuners with Rosewood Buttons".
So not Koa buttons but Rosewood.

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[twocorgis]

The Guild spec sheet from 2013 for those tuners read: "Gold Waverly Tuners with Rosewood Buttons".
So not Koa buttons but Rosewood.

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Yes, they are Waverlys, and StewMac stepped to the plate, and sent @richardp69 a new set.