I just bought this f212 today. It has some modifications and odd characteristics. I am hoping to get some help identifying it and some insight into the headstock markings etc.
Guild F212 questions
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HeyMikey
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Looks like the headstock was stripped and refinished with a custom inlay. Replaced tuners. Looks like a bridge doctor or perhaps BB pickup system from those mop dots on the bridge. Bottom line is how does it play and sound for you? That old spruce and mahogany should be real sweet.
SFIV1967
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Might have also been a repair as the back of the headstock was painted black.
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Ralf
I just got back from the luthier. It did have a headstock repair. That explains the lack of guild on there. He adjusted the truss Rod and action got much better. I am having tge loose braces repaired and adding a bridge doctor. It will still be ugly but will still make pretty sounds!
Cougar
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Well done! Crazy-old Guild!
Lots of custom work done on this guitar, fuzzy.
The inlays in the fretboard are not stock, as of course is the same for the headstock veneer and backstrap, so a lot of neck work has been done. The pickguard also isn't stock, so the guitar probably had soundboard work done at some point too. I don't know what those inlays on the bridge are either. Could be holes made by someone screwing the bridge down... The positioning doesn't look like a Bridge Doctor.. But, who knows.
Can't read the serial number off the label, but if you can figure it out we might be able to date the original production year for you.
Enjoy it.
The inlays in the fretboard are not stock, as of course is the same for the headstock veneer and backstrap, so a lot of neck work has been done. The pickguard also isn't stock, so the guitar probably had soundboard work done at some point too. I don't know what those inlays on the bridge are either. Could be holes made by someone screwing the bridge down... The positioning doesn't look like a Bridge Doctor.. But, who knows.
Can't read the serial number off the label, but if you can figure it out we might be able to date the original production year for you.
Enjoy it.
hansmoust
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From what I can see in the photos it looks like an instrument from 1966, but I could be off a little bit!
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Maybe not silly internet. Roughly speaking between 1965 and 1970 guitars were made at both Hoboken and Westerly. To further complicate things Westerly built guitars received Hoboken labels until the supply of labels ran out, some time after 1970. So the only way to be certain where an instrument was made during that time would be to use the serial number and ask Hans Moust or one of the folks on LTG who is keeping track of the public answers to such questions.
adorshki
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Yep.
The way I understand it Westerly didn't even start production until '67. In October '65 the Westerly plant had just been purchased by Orsenigo Company, who then sold it to Al Dronge as they were closing it down by '66 already. First guitars shipped in August '67 and "For some time the WEsterl plant prodeuced M20's and Mark I classical guitars only" And Hoboken was closed "by 1969"
Per the Guild Guitar Book.
A '66 12-er absolutely can't be a Westerly and '67's are most commonly ID'd as Hobokens.
Yup, Hans nailed it (as usual)!
Is that serial number visible somewhere? And, yeah... Built in Hoboken.