Guild F40 - body shape???

[E-Type]

I do not speak of the Oxnard F40, it is dead to me.

The worst part of making the F40 a jumbo is that means they have no thought of reviving the F-40/F-47 body style.

Of course, the essential problem is that Guild couldn't decide if the letter (F, D, G, M) would describe the size or the shape and whether the number would describe the size or the construction/materials. So an F comes in different sizes, 20, 30, 40, 50, but a D comes in different levels of construction, 25, 30, 35, 40, 50, 55, 60, etc.

 

[midnightright]

I'm a fan of the K&K Pure mini. I haven't heard back from my luthier as to how spendy plugging the 7/8" hole would be. But it seems they made way more f-47 with D-Tar than without it.

Is that a passive pickup? And does that mean that you'd need an external preamp before plugging into something... I had a used guitar with one of those in it once, but I never even bothered trying it out! I've only heard good things about it though.

As for the f40, I remember playing one, "once" at the podium in mpls, that was used & near mint, there from someone the sales guy said was a regular customer, who as it turns out, was a 'Res,' guy.

Loved it, but I couldn't figure out how to play it comfortably without it sliding down my leg. It was priced very well (for us - the buyer) & had it been the same thing, only an f30, I'm pretty sure I'd have bought it...

 

[midnightright]

The worst part of making the F40 a jumbo is that means they have no thought of reviving the F-40/F-47 body style.

Of course, the essential problem is that Guild couldn't decide if the letter (F, D, G, M) would describe the size or the shape and whether the number would describe the size or the construction/materials. So an F comes in different sizes, 20, 30, 40, 50, but a D comes in different levels of construction, 25, 30, 35, 40, 50, 55, 60, etc.

Now I'm even more confused. . . than I was before, when I didn't know all of those things!

 

[E-Type]

Is that a passive pickup? And does that mean that you'd need an external preamp before plugging into something... I had a used guitar with one of those in it once, but I never even bothered trying it out! I've only heard good things about it though.

As for the f40, I remember playing one, "once" at the podium in mpls, that was used & near mint, there from someone the sales guy said was a regular customer, who as it turns out, was a 'Res,' guy.

Loved it, but I couldn't figure out how to play it comfortably without it sliding down my leg. It was priced very well (for us - the buyer) & had it been the same thing, only an f30, I'm pretty sure I'd have bought it...

The K&K is passive. On my arch-back '74 D-25, I don't even need a preamp, it sounds great. However, on my '70 flat -back D-25, I need a preamp to tame the signal. My hypothesis is that the more resonant '70 vibrates the bridge plate more. But if you are plugging in, I cannot see the downside of having a preamp pedal on the floor. With a notch filter, I can dial out feedback too.

 

[E-Type]

Now I'm even more confused. . . than I was before, when I didn't know all of those things!

Welcome to the wonderful world of Guild!

 

[chazmo]

I'm a fan of the K&K Pure mini. I haven't heard back from my luthier as to how spendy plugging the 7/8" hole would be. But it seems they made way more f-47 with D-Tar than without it.

Fair enough. Ask. I would think $100 or so for labor to plug the hole and replace the electronics. I guess what I'm saying is that I wouldn't rule out the guitar because of the load 'n lock. Things like Fishman barn doors and those awful old holes in the soundboard for the dials of the '70s electronics, yeah... But load 'n lock is just an endpin thingy and never visible. That's just me, of course.

 

[E-Type]

Fair enough. Ask. I would think $100 or so for labor to plug the hole and replace the electronics. I guess what I'm saying is that I wouldn't rule out the guitar because of the load 'n lock. Things like Fishman barn doors and those awful old holes in the soundboard for the dials of the '70s electronics, yeah... But load 'n lock is just an endpin thingy and never visible. That's just me, of course.

I'm with you on all accounts! But the replacement cost figures into my willingness to pay.

 

[adorshki]

If I have this right, in Tacoma and New Hartford, the F-40 Valencia had a simpler neck while the F-47 had block markers and bound necks. Has anyone tried both a Tacoma and a New Hartford? Any significant differences. I have been looking at Tacoma F-47s, but they all have the Lock and Load D-Tar, which I'm not sure I'd like and is hard to replace.

Yes, initially F40's and 47's had block markers as part of their "bling formula" Very early F40's even had an early version of G-shield as seen on the '56 in post #1, before standardizing on the chesterfield through end of Corona (F47's). Tacoma introduced "aesthetic austerity", my term, and no snark intended.

 

[ReevesRd]

But it seems they made way more f-47 with D-Tar than without it

My NH F-47 came without electronics. I don't have any plans to add electronics. My local tech was like, add the pickup until he saw it in person. Then he said, "Keep it as is". It also came without the pickguard installed.

Most of the F-47s I see from this period are cutaways.

This photo was taken after the arrival from Blake. I was so excited that afternoon.

 

[chazmo]

Dang, that's a beauty, Reeves. Use it in good health! Can we see a label close up?

 

[ReevesRd]

Can we see a label close up?

I'll have to take a photo of the label. However, it's a 2013 NH F-47M AB serial number NQ280006 (2013 Oct. 7th).
Top signed 9/11/2013 by Jason McIntyre, Jason signed most of the Orpheum and Custom Shop guitars from New Hartford.

 

[schoolie]

Both my NH F-47s had the DTAR electronics. Wasn't too difficult to plug with a mahogany dowel and drill for the endpin.

 

[WaltW]

My NH F-47 came without electronics. I don't have any plans to add electronics. My local tech was like, add the pickup until he saw it in person. Then he said, "Keep it as is". It also came without the pickguard installed.

Most of the F-47s I see from this period are cutaways.

This photo was taken after the arrival from Blake. I was so excited that afternoon.

Very nice ReevesRd. Another small bodied Guild that I haven seen before. I love my F20 2012 that I bought here in Sept. Just the right amount of volume for my playing in the house and it has really good resonance. Your F47 has the same yellow/orange center tone as my 1980 G312..............I hope you enjoy it as I do my F20.

 

[ReevesRd]

Dang, that's a beauty, Reeves. Use it in good health! Can we see a label close up?

@chazmo, thanks. I think it's a beauty, too. Here's the label...

 

[chazmo]

Here's the label...

Yup, late 2013, Reeves. Actually right around the time we were at the shop for LMGIV!

 

[adorshki]

My NH F-47 came without electronics. I don't have any plans to add electronics. My local tech was like, add the pickup until he saw it in person. Then he said, "Keep it as is". It also came without the pickguard installed.

Most of the F-47s I see from this period are cutaways.

This photo was taken after the arrival from Blake. I was so excited that afternoon.

Because it was the second dedicated A/E model Guild ever made after the F45ce. The "F-series" became their primary platform for acoustic-electrics, evolving to the F65ce and the revival of the F47ce/Mce/Rce in'98 Westerly: