New D-240E Flamed Mahogany Limited Edition model

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For fun we can read this again , What ? No it had nothing to do with the figuring of the wood :(
http://www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/mahogany-mixups-the-lowdown/
Excellent link!

This ad says flamed mahogany, but I'm dubious. The grain looked nothing like mahogany.
Mahogany can look very different depending on the cut and tree. A few examples, all are mahogany:

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= Swietenia macrophylla = Honduran mahogany

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= Khaya ivorensis

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= Entandrophragma cylindricum


Genuine Mahogany:
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Genuine Mahogany:
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Honduras Mahogany:
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Sapele:
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This is also mahogany and not maple, I don't know which exact species:
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...this model has a laminated back so it's all looks for people who like this
Actually it's not just for the looks or price as it is not simply a laminated back but an arched back which is a Guild signature design from the past, see F-412 or G-37 or the D-25 arched back version for instance.
Ralf
 

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Excellent link!

Mahogany can look very different depending on the cut and tree. A few examples, all are mahogany:

Thanks for the interesting pictures. I always thought that mahogany in its natural state was much lighter in colour and what we see depends on the stain that is used. But the examples in the pictures have pleasant colours and I assume they are all "natural". I also have a "mahogany" ukulele and I always wondered about what kind it is, and the figured sapele in the pictures looks closest.
 

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Figured Mahog is not that uncommon. The color of that guitar does look awful light and golden for real Mahog though. I looked on the Guild site for a close up, there is one showing the battery compartment. The surrounding wood does have the "open pore" style grain of mahogany. Maple does not have that style of grain. Maybe it's one of the many woods they call mahogany now days that really isn't?
 
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Figured Mahog is not that uncommon. The color of that guitar does look awful light and golden for real Mahog though. I looked on the Guild site for a close up, there is one showing the battery compartment. The surrounding wood does have the "open pore" style grain of mahogany. Maple does not have that style of grain. Maybe it's one of the many woods they call mahogany now days that really isn't?

Yes I think it's pretty well accepted it not maple, and that it's probably not a true Swietenia.
Heck they're even offering "African (read "non-swietenia") Mahogany" on some of the US-builts now, and I suspect "true" mahoganies are too scarce and too expensive for the MIC's now.
I think Khaya's the most common African mahogany at the moment.
 

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Yes I think it's pretty well accepted it not maple, and that it's probably not a true Swietenia.
Heck they're even offering "African (read "non-swietenia") Mahogany" on some of the US-builts now, and I suspect "true" mahoganies are too scarce and too expensive for the MIC's now.
I think Khaya's the most common African mahogany at the moment.

Yes it's pretty sad. Last week I was in the back of my luthier's shop and noticed some lumber on the floor so I asked if this was his new batch of mahogany, then followed up if it was Honduran ... and he said African, as Honduran is almost impossible to get. And he's a one-man shop with low production. So I'm curious with supposedly plenty of plantations in Asia that supply swietenia for furniture production, why this is not used for guitars as well?
 

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Yes it's pretty sad. Last week I was in the back of my luthier's shop and noticed some lumber on the floor so I asked if this was his new batch of mahogany, then followed up if it was Honduran ... and he said African, as Honduran is almost impossible to get. And he's a one-man shop with low production. So I'm curious with supposedly plenty of plantations in Asia that supply swietenia for furniture production, why this is not used for guitars as well?

I hadn't heard of asian swietenia farms, only EIR (Dahlbergia).
But that just means I haven't looked and so am not aware. If true it's a good question. I'd guess perhaps furniture demand is high enough to keep it scarce and expensive.
 

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I hadn't heard of asian swietenia farms, only EIR (Dahlbergia).
But that just means I haven't looked and so am not aware. If true it's a good question. I'd guess perhaps furniture demand is high enough to keep it scarce and expensive.

From wikipedia:

Unlike mahogany sourced from its native locations, plantation mahogany grown in Asia is not restricted in trade. The mahogany timber grown in these Asian plantations is the major source of international trade in genuine mahogany today. The Asian countries which grow the majority of Swietenia macrophylla are India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Fiji, Philippines, Singapore, and some others, with India and Fiji being the major world suppliers. The tree is also planted in Laos
 

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Enter Santos Mahogany ! 😁
 

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From wikipedia:

Touche.
Actually that now rings the bell from the time I researched it a couple of years back and you probably know Wiki's one of my favorite sources.
BUT it also occurs to me that if that article's not been updated since Jan '17 when the most recent CITES regs kicked in, that there may be certification issues that make it troublesome to obtain compared to African varieties.
IE it may not be restricted but proving it's the unrestricted stuff and getting the certs may be more troublesome than it's worth, in the small volumes (compared to he furniture industry) guitar makers need?
 
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