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Thread: My review of the NEW OXNARD F55e

  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by bobouz View Post
    Ren used placement holes for various purposes with Gibson, at various points in the neck, on the bridgplate, and perhaps at other locations. I seem to recall seeing video where he began utilizing the same type of locator/alignment placement holes on Guild necks. Just a guess, but this hole at the neckblock may be something of a similar nature.
    None of my New Hartford Traditional models ranging from 2011-2014 including one D55-RS that was built a few days before New Hartford closing have any visible holes or cover plates in the neck blocks. Ren started with Guild in 2012, If he did use alignment holes on Guild Traditional Necks in New Hartford they weren't noticeable from viewing the inside of the guitar.

    My Orpheums that I own and have owned (5 in total) only had a small hole through the soundhole brace to access the truss rod from the soundhole with a long 4mm hex wrench. The hole for the Truss rod was only slightly larger than the diameter of the truss rod itself and was not countersunk in the way the M/T neck blocks from Oxnard are which this neck block in the photo appears to me to be. They could just be using universal neck blocks like mentioned before but they really should have covered that top hole with the rest of the serial number plate.

    TX
    Last edited by txbumper57; 04-19-2018 at 08:19 PM.
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    Hoboken-1960 X175, 1961 SF-II
    Westerly-1971 F612, 2000 SF-V, 1984 S284
    Nashville C.S. SFIV-3 P90 w/Trem, 2000 JF65-CE
    Corona-2003 Fleming F47-Brz RW, 2003 D55 50th Brz #10 of 50, 2003 SF-III-90
    Conn-2011 GSR D50 Coco, 2011 F212XL STD, 2013 R30S, 2013 Orph Jumbo, 2014 Orph Burst 000-12 Fret 12 String S.H. RW, 2012 F50-DTAR, 2012 F50R Burst, 2012 F50R DTAR, 2013 F512 Burst, 2014 F512-DTAR, 2014 D55-RS, 2014 GSR X500D

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  2. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by twocorgis View Post
    Beautiful guitar CT! I just put my Orpheum jumbo on the scale, and it read 4.4 pounds. It's by far the lightest jumbo body I've ever hoisted, and even my luthier remarked about the same.
    Just weighed the F55e: 4.8 lbs

    - Sandy, does your Orph have electronics?

    Anybody here on the forum have an F50R and is willing to weigh it?

    As a comparison:

    NH D55 w/DTar = 5.2 lbs
    SJ200 standard w/LR Baggs = 5.2 lbs
    Last edited by ClydeTower; 04-20-2018 at 02:07 PM.
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    2017 Guild F55e Sunburst
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  3. #93
    I wish I had a scale Clyde, I could weigh the DTAR and non DTAR version for you. Maybe I will get a chance to pick one up this weekend if I can break free.

    TX
    Guilds
    Hoboken-1960 X175, 1961 SF-II
    Westerly-1971 F612, 2000 SF-V, 1984 S284
    Nashville C.S. SFIV-3 P90 w/Trem, 2000 JF65-CE
    Corona-2003 Fleming F47-Brz RW, 2003 D55 50th Brz #10 of 50, 2003 SF-III-90
    Conn-2011 GSR D50 Coco, 2011 F212XL STD, 2013 R30S, 2013 Orph Jumbo, 2014 Orph Burst 000-12 Fret 12 String S.H. RW, 2012 F50-DTAR, 2012 F50R Burst, 2012 F50R DTAR, 2013 F512 Burst, 2014 F512-DTAR, 2014 D55-RS, 2014 GSR X500D

    Amps
    70 T-bird 2x12
    93 Sequoia

  4. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by txbumper57 View Post
    None of my New Hartford Traditional models ranging from 2011-2014 including one D55-RS that was built a few days before New Hartford closing have any visible holes or cover plates in the neck blocks. Ren started with Guild in 2012, If he did use alignment holes on Guild Traditional Necks in New Hartford they weren't noticeable from viewing the inside of the guitar. TX
    Tx - Just to clarify re my earlier comments:

    I have never seen a locator/alignment hole on any Ren era Gibson or Guild neckblock. Where I have seen the use of these holes in Gibsons is in relation to the neck & fingerboard, and they are not visible once the guitar is fully constructed. The other area is in the middle of the bridgeplate, just north of the bridge pin holes. This hole does remain visible, and is filled with a plug.

    As for Guilds, I have seen video of similar alignment holes being used in the neck/fingerboard region. I cannot remember for sure if this video was from NH or Oxnard, but here's what my almost 67 year old pea brain seems to recall: I believe it was a video that was put out by Cordoba during the Oxnard plant's start-up, and various bits of equipment & construction processes were being shown to demonstrate that the plant was truly coming on line. As soon as I saw the neck/fingerboard alignment holes, my first thought was: "Interesting that Ren has now incorporated this process into the construction of Guilds."

    So that said, my speculation about the neckblock hole on Clyde's new beauty was simply that > Idle speculation regarding the possibility of this hole being one that's utilized as some sort of locator. Would I put money on it? Absolutely not! If I were a wagering sort of guy, I'd actually put my chips down on this being a universal neckblock for both the M/T & dovetail bodies.

    I'm sure we'll eventually find out exactly what the deal is, but until we do, all OCD hands on deck!
    Last edited by bobouz; 04-20-2018 at 08:40 AM.
    > Guilds: '73 F-30R / '74 F-40nt / '76 G-37bld / '92 D-6nt-hg / '94 JF-30nt / '97 Starfire III / '14 Savoy A-150b
    > Gibsons: '22 "A" Mandolin / '66 ES-125T / '66 Epi Cortez (B-25) / '90 Tennessean / '00 J-100xt / '02 J-45 RW / '02 SG / '09 ES-339 / '10 ES-330L / '11 ES-335 P90s / '12 ES-330 VOS / '12 LP Special / '12 J-185 / '13 LG-2 / '13 Midtown Kalamazoo / '14 J-15 / '15 J-50
    > Epis: '00 AIUSA Sheraton / '05 McCartney Texan / '09 Elitist Casino
    > Martins: '00 OOO-16 / '01 Custom RW D

  5. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeTower View Post
    Anybody here on the forum have an F50R and is willing to weigh it?
    I'm certainly willing, but I'm in the same boat as TX - no scale accurate enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobouz View Post
    As soon as I saw the neck/fingerboard alignment holes, my first thought was: "Interesting that Ren has now incorporated this process into the construction of Guilds."
    I learn and I forget. On the first LMG I was impressed by alignment holes and tabs and the other features in construction that were used to help make the pieces together. So alignment holes for Guilds at NH definitely predate Ren. What I do not recall is whether I saw neck/fingerboard holes or not, so that specific innovation might have been Ren's but maybe not.

    While it is kind of neat to attribute everything at New Hartford to Ren, we do well to remember that the factory made guitars before and in addition to Guilds and that many of the production processes and procedures were in place before he arrived.

    Oxnard is a different story since he was pretty much given a blank piece of paper and told to design and build a factory.
    Quote Originally Posted by mgod View Post
    What he said.

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  7. #97
    Fro - Thanks for that piece of NH info. Although I was always rooting for them, my interest in Guild lay mostly dormant from the end of the '70s until 2015. What I know about the inner workings of the New Hartford factory could fit on a pinhead, but clearly, they were building fine instruments before Ren's arrival in 2012. At that time, my armchair perspective tended to suggest that he was focused mostly on developing the Orpheum line, and utilized aspects of his Gibson background in doing so (such as his extensive knowledge re the roundshoulder platform). But again, that was strictly from a very casual observation perch.

    When I decided to revisit my favorite '70s Westerlys in 2015, my focus on all things Guild-related was renewed. The Oxnard transition was slowly moving forward, and as you stated, Ren was clearly the responsible party for the development of that facility.

    Clyde's report on his new Oxnard jumbo reflects positively on Guild's hopeful future, and it reads rather like a story coming full circle.
    > Guilds: '73 F-30R / '74 F-40nt / '76 G-37bld / '92 D-6nt-hg / '94 JF-30nt / '97 Starfire III / '14 Savoy A-150b
    > Gibsons: '22 "A" Mandolin / '66 ES-125T / '66 Epi Cortez (B-25) / '90 Tennessean / '00 J-100xt / '02 J-45 RW / '02 SG / '09 ES-339 / '10 ES-330L / '11 ES-335 P90s / '12 ES-330 VOS / '12 LP Special / '12 J-185 / '13 LG-2 / '13 Midtown Kalamazoo / '14 J-15 / '15 J-50
    > Epis: '00 AIUSA Sheraton / '05 McCartney Texan / '09 Elitist Casino
    > Martins: '00 OOO-16 / '01 Custom RW D

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