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    How to determine value of Guild F47 Serial #85033

    I have done some searches and nothing seems to match what is listed for Model F47, Serial Number 85033. The only F47 I saw was in the 60s, but the serial number does not match charts. I am assuming year 1985 if prefix in serial number is right. I am going to bring up to Guitar Center for an appraisal, but curious what I should expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceverhart302 View Post
    I have done some searches and nothing seems to match what is listed for Model F47, Serial Number 85033. The only F47 I saw was in the 60s, but the serial number does not match charts. I am assuming year 1985 if prefix in serial number is right. I am going to bring up to Guitar Center for an appraisal, but curious what I should expect.
    Hi Welcome aboard Ceverhart!

    The "85" in that s/n has nothing to do with year of manufacture, and yes the charts themselves are confusing and even contain errors.
    For the period your guitar was made, there were no breakouts by model, only the range of numbers assigned:
    Drop down on the chart and look at the '73 range, which also happened to be last year of make of the first issue of F47's "IIRC"; as it was dropped and the F40 was brought back in '74 ("If I recall correctly").
    http://guildguitars.com/wp-content/u...your_guild.pdf
    As for value, condition is EVERYTHING.
    Not knowing how knowledgable you are about guitars, I'll just say there are a lot of things we look at to help determine value and not all of 'em are obvious to a layman, things like neck angle (not "straightness"); fret wear, finish condition, other issues of structural soundness.
    Generally speaking Guitar Center isn't the best venue for appraisal, better suggestion is to look online for something like the Vintage Guitar Blue Book, and post some pics and get some feedback here.
    Remember Guitar Center wants to buy the instrument at a price that allows 'em to make some money just like a car dealer, and that's understandable.
    But it's going to affect their appraisal, it's going to be "wholesale" not "retail" unless they give you both numbers.
    You can also check listings like this one on Reverb:
    https://reverb.com/item/16396568-gui...7-1973-natural
    Also be aware of the fact that a new members' first few posts are vetted by moderators so your replies may take a while to show up.
    But rest assured you have found the single best resource on the net when it comes to Guild guitars.
    Why are you getting it appraised?
    Al
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    The SN #85033 corresponds to a build from 1973. According to Beesely's and Moust's books, the F-47 was introduced in 1964, and Beesely indicates it was discontinued in 1974. The best way to get an idea of value would be to check other sales, on eBay, GBase, or Reverb (or get an appraisel).
    Dave

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    Welcome to the forum. Condition and originality are significant factors when determining value. Please let us know about the guitar's condition, and post pictures, if possible.
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    Gruhn's Guitars in Nashville (George Gruhn) is one of the most respected dealers in the country. They can do an appraisal (for a fee) based on photos you send them.

    If you decide to sell the instrument, their appraisal will be useful in the process. If you keep the instrument, it will be beneficial for insurance purposes.
    > Guilds: '73 F-30R / '74 F-40nt / '76 G-37bld / '92 D-6nt-hg / '94 JF-30nt / '97 Starfire III / '14 Savoy A-150b
    > Gibsons: '22 "A" Mandolin / '66 ES-125T / '66 Epi Cortez (B-25) / '90 Tennessean / '00 J-100xt / '02 J-45 RW / '02 SG / '07 CJ-165 / '09 ES-339 / '10 ES-330L / '11 ES-335 P90s / '12 ES-330 VOS / '12 LP Special / '12 J-185 / '13 LG-2 / '13 M.Kalamazoo / '14 J-15 / '15 J-50
    > Epis: '00 AIUSA Sheraton / '05 McCartney Texan / '09 Elitist Casino
    > Martins: '00 OOO-16 / '01 CS RW D

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    Thanks for all the responses. I will post pictures tomorrow, appreciate the time and your knowledge.

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    Thank you to all the above posters, who took the time to help me out. To answer your questions and to post pics..

    I was in the process of selling lots of misc. items on Ebay and Marketplace that have been lying around unused for years. I was using Google to determine going prices. This is when I discovered the Guild-F47 had some value and now trying to price accordingly, as well as interested in the history of it (which I found on this site). The chart "adorshki" provided does indicate the Model#850333 is a 1973.

    Based on pictures I have seen online of similar guitars, I would say good/fair condition. The prices on Ebay, Reverb seemed to range from 750 to into the thousands. I am not knowledgeable about guitars, so yes a layman. That is why I decided, I better try to post on forums like this and take it to Guitar Center.

    https://guildguitars.com/our-company...-and-heritage/
    https://reverb.com/item/16396568-gui...7-1973-natural
    https://reverb.com/item/23143774-gui...7-1972-natural (this is 1972)
    https://trcrandall.com/products/1973-guild-f-47 (some history - called Bluegrass)

    Here are some pictures of it. It is quite dusty, but did not want to try to clean it up and than devalue it, LOL. If I am not mistaken, I can not upload pics directly, so this is a link to my dropox
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1i5bfaswb...M9k0-ku7a?dl=0

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    I think my previous post is delayed as I am a newbie. Not sure if my dropbox link will work for pictures, so I have also created a flikr link here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/171532.../shares/U9tS75

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    Cathy, your pics do show up with the provided link. It's a nice looking F-47, but there are many structural issues to be examined when considering the purchase of an older guitar, and they will impact it's value if there are problems.

    This is potentially a nice vintage piece, so it would be well worth getting it to a respected & qualified luthier for an in-hand assessment. Honestly, Guitar Center is a total crapshoot. You may or may not get someone who knows what they're doing, or knows much of anything about Guilds.

    If you let us know your location, members here will quite possibly be able to recommend the best person to take it to in your area. It's also possible that we might know of a quality shop nearby that does consignments and advertises through Reverb, which could simplify the process for you. This site does have a "for sale" section, but you truly need to first get a qualified assessment of the instrument's overall condition in order to set a reasonable asking price.
    > Guilds: '73 F-30R / '74 F-40nt / '76 G-37bld / '92 D-6nt-hg / '94 JF-30nt / '97 Starfire III / '14 Savoy A-150b
    > Gibsons: '22 "A" Mandolin / '66 ES-125T / '66 Epi Cortez (B-25) / '90 Tennessean / '00 J-100xt / '02 J-45 RW / '02 SG / '07 CJ-165 / '09 ES-339 / '10 ES-330L / '11 ES-335 P90s / '12 ES-330 VOS / '12 LP Special / '12 J-185 / '13 LG-2 / '13 M.Kalamazoo / '14 J-15 / '15 J-50
    > Epis: '00 AIUSA Sheraton / '05 McCartney Texan / '09 Elitist Casino
    > Martins: '00 OOO-16 / '01 CS RW D

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobouz View Post
    Cathy, your pics do show up with the provided link. It's a nice looking F-47, but there are many structural issues to be examined when considering the purchase of an older guitar, and they will impact it's value if there are problems.

    This is potentially a nice vintage piece, so it would be well worth getting it to a respected & qualified luthier for an in-hand assessment. Honestly, Guitar Center is a total crapshoot. You may or may not get someone who knows what they're doing, or knows much of anything about Guilds.

    If you let us know your location, members here will quite possibly be able to recommend the best person to take it to in your area. It's also possible that we might know of a quality shop nearby that does consignments and advertises through Reverb, which could simplify the process for you. This site does have a "for sale" section, but you truly need to first get a qualified assessment of the instrument's overall condition in order to set a reasonable asking price.
    Again, thanks for your support and information. It would be great if anyone could recommend nearby consignments, or shops in the area. I too feel "Guitar Center" may not be in my best interest. Also have no idea how to go about cleaning. It also does not have a hard case, so not sure how to go about shipping...that is why I thought about "Guitar Center". I am in Livonia, Michigan 48154 area. Sincere, thanks!!!

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