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    M65 Bummer

    I bought this: https://reverb.com/item/25282742-gui...shman-1965-red upside town TRC and all:



    Unfortunately, I discovered this:






    The repair is actually well done. The other problem is that the ad says that it comes with a case and it came in a cheap-*** gig bag.

    I'm waiting to hear back from the seller.
    1970s: [ S70 | S300ADs ]
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    1980s: [ Detonator | Liberator + Elite | SF4 | AA ]
    1990s: [ S100 | X160 | X170 | X170T | SF3,5 | BB | NB | NB DX ]
    1990s: [ X2000 | X3000 | X4000s | DV72 | BHM1 | JF30-12 | Songbird ]
    2000s: [ SF3 | SF4 | B-90 | BB-90 | X160R | X500T | D55 ]
    2010s:
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    In other news, the censorship-bot never ceases to amuse me.

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    1970s: [ S70 | S300ADs ]
    1980s: [ X79-3 | X80s | X82 | X100 | X175 | S281 | BHM1 ]
    1980s: [ Detonator | Liberator + Elite | SF4 | AA ]
    1990s: [ S100 | X160 | X170 | X170T | SF3,5 | BB | NB | NB DX ]
    1990s: [ X2000 | X3000 | X4000s | DV72 | BHM1 | JF30-12 | Songbird ]
    2000s: [ SF3 | SF4 | B-90 | BB-90 | X160R | X500T | D55 ]
    2010s:
    [ Jetstar | R30 | D55 ]

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    Also I'm pretty sure it's an M65-3/4
    1970s: [ S70 | S300ADs ]
    1980s: [ X79-3 | X80s | X82 | X100 | X175 | S281 | BHM1 ]
    1980s: [ Detonator | Liberator + Elite | SF4 | AA ]
    1990s: [ S100 | X160 | X170 | X170T | SF3,5 | BB | NB | NB DX ]
    1990s: [ X2000 | X3000 | X4000s | DV72 | BHM1 | JF30-12 | Songbird ]
    2000s: [ SF3 | SF4 | B-90 | BB-90 | X160R | X500T | D55 ]
    2010s:
    [ Jetstar | R30 | D55 ]

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  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by GAD View Post
    Also I'm pretty sure it's an M65-3/4
    Just measure the scale length.
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcornHouse View Post
    Just measure the scale length.
    Eh - maybe later. It's got a 3/4 serial number.
    1970s: [ S70 | S300ADs ]
    1980s: [ X79-3 | X80s | X82 | X100 | X175 | S281 | BHM1 ]
    1980s: [ Detonator | Liberator + Elite | SF4 | AA ]
    1990s: [ S100 | X160 | X170 | X170T | SF3,5 | BB | NB | NB DX ]
    1990s: [ X2000 | X3000 | X4000s | DV72 | BHM1 | JF30-12 | Songbird ]
    2000s: [ SF3 | SF4 | B-90 | BB-90 | X160R | X500T | D55 ]
    2010s:
    [ Jetstar | R30 | D55 ]

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    Senior Member walrus's Avatar
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    That obviously should have been disclosed by the seller! Definitely not "As Described".

    What's weird is I have "Guild M 65" on my Reverb feed and I never saw that one! ** edit - wait, yes I did! ***

    walrus
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    Quote Originally Posted by GAD View Post
    Eh - maybe later. It's got a 3/4 serial number.
    Yes, but a 3/4 would have 19 or 20 frets, the full size has 22, as this one does. So, serial # notwithstanding, I’d have to say it’s full size.
    Chris

    56 A-50, '57 CE-100, 58 A-350, '60 X-150, 60 SF II, '61 M-20, '62 F-20, '64 S-50 Jetstar, '64 Mark II, '65 SFIV, '71 S-90, '75 F-112, '75 Mark IVp, '81 M-80, '82 S-275, 87 Nightbird I, '88 Detonator, 92 F-15ce, '93 X-500, '97 Bluesbird, '99 F-30, 14 NS Aristocrat, '16 NS T-bird
    '54 Masteramp, '60 99j, '63 200-S, '66 T-bass, 66 Thunder T1-12, '69 T-star, 93 Sequoia,
    68 Bari Uke

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    '08 Parlor, '10 Butternut Deuce, '13 Rounder, '14 Kulakeiki

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    Senior Member walrus's Avatar
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    GAD, is that "blacklight' photo showing something else wrong besides the headstock repair?

    BTW, that serial number makes it a 1968, I think.

    walrus
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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    GAD, is that "blacklight' photo showing something else wrong besides the headstock repair?

    BTW, that serial number makes it a 1968, I think.

    walrus
    (apologies for butt-inski)
    What jumped out at me was the sharp contrast at the line a couple of inches down the neck.
    Pretty sure the darker area that straddles it represents worn down lacquer from play wear, saw the same thing on my D25 when I blacklit it last week.
    The original lacquer really was a milky fluorescent hue except for the wear areas, they were a couple of dark streaks maybe a couple of inches long near the headstock.
    And it was the only one to show that.
    On this guitar I think we're seeing original lacquer on the bright lower neck and wear at the dark area, and new lacquer above that line.
    Can't explain why it's so much darker.
    And in fact I cant even tell there's a break under it in the UV photo.
    Al
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    Pretty unforgivable to not disclose a headstock repair. Reason enough to return it. A good one will show up.
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