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    Where are NS Guilds made?

    This may have been covered previously, but in case it has not:

    https://samick.fandom.com/wiki/SPG_M...Instruments_Co.

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    Korea.

    Oh, or were you just saying that, Flats?
    Guilds:
    1967 MK-VI Artist Special (Hoboken - Jacobs restoration 2018) - "The Mark"
    12ers:
    1994 JF-30-12Bld (Westerly),
    2006 F-512 (Tacoma),
    2010 F-212XL STD (New Hartford) - "Connie"
    2014 Orpheum 12 OOO SHRW (New Hartford)

    Other 12ers:
    1970 Martin D-12-20
    1980 Ibanez AW-75 (Series I)
    1984 Taylor 655

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    Under Fender, the guy who spearheaded the Gretsch electrics (Mike something, I believe) basically started the Newark Street series during Guild's 60th anniversary days. Though we'd seen the GSR electrics from New Hartford, it was nice to see the revival of electrics from Guild.
    Guilds:
    1967 MK-VI Artist Special (Hoboken - Jacobs restoration 2018) - "The Mark"
    12ers:
    1994 JF-30-12Bld (Westerly),
    2006 F-512 (Tacoma),
    2010 F-212XL STD (New Hartford) - "Connie"
    2014 Orpheum 12 OOO SHRW (New Hartford)

    Other 12ers:
    1970 Martin D-12-20
    1980 Ibanez AW-75 (Series I)
    1984 Taylor 655

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    For some reason, it won't let me link directly to the page to which I wanted to direct you. You have to click on the first link on the page that my link DOES go to. This information evidently pertains to any NS Guild whose serial number starts with "KSG...", which, at least in my experience, seems to be all of the NS basses.
    Last edited by Minnesota Flats; 06-24-2019 at 07:15 PM.

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    SPG makes most of them. The solid bodies are made by another company. I don't recall who they are at this point but will find out and post later.

    OK Found it. WMI makes the solid bodies.

    SPG is a company that was founded by former Samick employees much the same as former Gibson employees founding Heritage Guitars. It is not Samick but at one point contracted to make guitars for Samick. My understanding is that Samick itself no longer produces guitars in Korea.

    SPG also makes guitars for Gretsch and D'Angelico, among others.
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    This is old news, at least if you also read the six string sections of LTG. But it is no longer true that ALL Newark Street instruments come from the same factory in Korea. There has been some evidence based speculation that there is now more than one Korean factory and there are definitely some solid body 6 strings being made in China.
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    What he said.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stuball48 View Post
    Frono: You are correct----again.

    '67 Starfire I Bass (Cherry)
    '71 JS II Bass (Walnut)
    '82 B-50 Acoustic Bass (Natural)
    '87 Pilot (Black)
    '13 Newark Street Starfire Bass (Cherry)
    '16 Betts Bass "Walnut Bottom"

    LMG I, II, III

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    Quote Originally Posted by fronobulax View Post
    There has been some evidence based speculation that there is now more than one Korean factory and there are definitely some solid body 6 strings being made in China.
    It's not "speculation" but reality...
    We are in the bass area here, but nevertheless this is my break-down of the entire Guild Newark St. line:

    Hollow and semi-hollow bodied models (Starfires, Aristocrat, A-, X-, T-models,...) come from SPG (Sound Professional Guitar Co, Ltd.) in Korea (KSG serial numbers = Korea SPG Guild).

    Solid-body electrics like the T-Bird, Bluesbird solid and S-100 come from WMI (World Musical Instrument Co. Ltd. ) in Incheon, Korea (KWM serial numbers = Korea World Musical).
    The S-100 for instance already switched from SPG to WMI during CMG's ownership of Guild. (WMI mounts the lid over the pot chamber with 6 screws on the S-100 model vs. previously with 4 screws on the former SPG versions).

    And since 2018 a new factoray was introduced with the new Jetstar model, coming from Yako Musical Instruments (Zhangzhou) Co., Ltd. in Zhangzhou city near Xiamen, China. (GY serial numbers = Guild Yako).
    EDIT: Also the 2019 introduced Aristocrat P90 and Aristocrat HH have GY serial numbers, so CMG seems to expand the supplier base.

    All those 3 factories are also producting loads of guitars for other well known companies.
    SPG produces for many like Gretsch, D’Angelico, Comins....
    WMI is producing for PRS, ESP, Agile, LTD, Chapman, Schecter...
    Yako for instance is producing for FMIC (Gretsch, Squier) since 24 years already!

    (I added a label example from GAD's great reviews)

    Ralf
    Last edited by SFIV1967; 07-21-2019 at 11:16 AM.

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    from the sticky at the top of the hollowbody subforum:

    Quote Originally Posted by SFIV1967 View Post
    Two more Yako made models in 2019: The chambered solid body Aristocrat HH and the chambered solid body Aristocrat P90.

    Ralf
    NO!!!! NO, NO, NO!!!!!!!!!

    The Aristocrat is a hollowbody instrument. Always has been, always should be. They've already put the Bluesbird name on a chambered instrument. Why in the world would they put the Aristocrat name on something that should be called the "Bluesbird ST" or something like that? Good grief. People are already confused by whether or not the Aristocrat is hollow or chambered. Even Guild get's it wrong on their own website. Why would they... just why??
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    Quote Originally Posted by DThomasC View Post
    from the sticky at the top of the hollowbody subforum:



    NO!!!! NO, NO, NO!!!!!!!!!

    The Aristocrat is a hollowbody instrument. Always has been, always [s]will[/s] should be. They've already put the Bluesbird name on a chambered instrument. Why in the world would they put the Aristocrat name on something that should be called the "Bluesbird ST" or something like that? Good grief. People are already confused by whether or not the Aristocrat is hollow or chambered. Even Guild get's it wrong on their own website. Why would they... just why??
    Wow! (in a good way). I thought Ralf nailed it so I made the sticky. I look forward to the give and take that ends up with and augmented or corrected sticky.

    And I speculate about where the solid body JetStar bass, if it is reintroduced, would be made, thus redirecting the veer.
    Quote Originally Posted by mgod View Post
    What he said.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stuball48 View Post
    Frono: You are correct----again.

    '67 Starfire I Bass (Cherry)
    '71 JS II Bass (Walnut)
    '82 B-50 Acoustic Bass (Natural)
    '87 Pilot (Black)
    '13 Newark Street Starfire Bass (Cherry)
    '16 Betts Bass "Walnut Bottom"

    LMG I, II, III

    This space available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fronobulax View Post
    I thought Ralf nailed it so I made the sticky.
    And I'm glad you did. It's the kind of fact that should be referenced often. If LTG had a FAQ, "where was my Guild made?" would be question #1. Maybe even "Where was my NS Guild made?"

    And, I hope everyone realizes that I wasn't ranting at Ralf. Both his knowledge and grace are valuable assets here. I was ranting at some other nameless, faceless person that may in fact have simply misspoke.
    DTC

    1958 T-100, 1964 S-50, 1964 M-65, 1976 S-300 (bolt-on neck), 1977 D-25, 1977 S-300, 1979 S-300A, 1983 S-25, 1984 Detonator, 1987 Nightbird (spruce top), 1988 D-15, 2001 Blues90, 2002 Bluesbird P90, 2014 Aristocrat

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