F512 fretboard radius

Brad Little

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I don't have a radius gauge, but want to know the radius on my New Hartford F512. Thalia capos say that Guild 12s have a 15" radius, but the Cordoba Guild website says 12". So, I wonder if there was a change from NH to Oxnard, or if one of the websites is wrong.
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My Westerly ones are 12”. The Hoboken 12s — at least some — are almost flat, like a classical.

BTW, I’m writing this from inside an elevator where my wife and I have been trapped for 45 mins. Southampton, NJ. Fire department on the way.

Hot as blazes in here. Hope they bring hoses!
 

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Oh, gosh, I can't recall, Brad! Sorry.
I just ordered an inexpensive set of radius gauges on line, so I can verify it myself in the future. I figure with several guitars from different makers, it may come in handy.
 

Brad Little

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My Westerly ones are 12”. The Hoboken 12s — at least some — are almost flat, like a classical.

BTW, I’m writing this from inside an elevator where my wife and I have been trapped for 45 mins. Southampton, NJ. Fire department on the way.

Hot as blazes in here. Hope they bring hoses!
Yeah, my Hoboken 212 is flat, really bothers some people. Hope you get out soon.
 

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BTW, I’m writing this from inside an elevator where my wife and I have been trapped for 45 mins. Southampton, NJ. Fire department on the way.
Hot as blazes in here. Hope they bring hoses!
Jeez, I hope you've been rescued by now! We can't have you becoming a storm statistic!
 

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We ended up being trapped between first and second floors (of a performance space where I was booked to play) for almost 90 minutes.

Building people couldn't do anything; firemen couldn't do anything; finally they located someone from the elevator company who was able to manually crank the cable till we were slowly lowered back to the first floor.

The elevator was about 5 X 5; no AC, no fan. Quickly became like a sauna. We were dripping sweat. The worst though was a piercing emergency beep that went on uninterrupted for 40 minutes. My wife and I slunk down on the floor with our fingers in our ears, unable to talk or hear ourselves think. Torture.

When they finally got us out, we were astonished -- there were over a dozen police, firemen, EMT people waiting for us, as well people from the building, and the elevator guy.

Apparently being stuck in an elevator is more serious than it sounds. Dehydration, claustrophobia, panic, sweats etc., are not uncommon --why it's taken so seriously, I guess. Some people have to be hospitalized we were told.

I felt lightheaded, was unable to get back to my feet without help, felt on the verge of fainting, but more or less got my land legs back. We had to fill out forms saying we elected not to go to the hospital.

To top it off, I had to go onstage and play a set three minutes after getting out! No chance to pull myself togther, warm up, soundcheck, etc.

I could barely tune my guitars -- my head was swimming!

One of the harriest gigs I've ever done, and my first since December, 2019. What a way to get back in the pool!
 
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That would scare the living daylights outa me. Glad it worked out. I think there's likely a song in that experience somewhere.

How did your gig go????
 

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Glad you and your wife are okay. What an ordeal!!
 

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Yikes, Glenn!! That story is enough to scare the pants off of anyone!! And having to go onstage right after?? What a freaking NIGHTMARE!! :eek:
 

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Hi Brad. Every Guild 12 string I have ever played or worked on (several dozen ranging from 1969 to 2014?) has a 12" radius up and down the fretboard.

Nobody asked, but y'all know me - ;~} - 12" is a "happy medium" radius, not too tight, not too flat. For my own Guilds and Guilds I alter for others, I change the fretboard to a compound radius where it starts at 12" at the nut and flattens to 20" at the end of the fretboard. The purpose is to make accessing the higher frets a bit easier for lead work, where increasing the curvature in the first position area makes for more comfortable rhythm work. A flatter radius makes playing barre chords more difficult, as it requires greater grip strength. The inverse is also true, a tighter radius makes for easier playing of barre chords. Flatter makes for easier, faster independent note access. This is especially notable (pun?) when bending strings. Blues players tend to prefer flatter fretboards.
 
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