For Sale Vintage Epiphone Casino E230TD 1967

I've owned this Casino for about 1.5 years and it plays, sounds, and feels marvelous. It is in good condition without cracks/breaks, intact original binding, orig pups, and the pots that I can observe are original. Neck is slim but not pencil thin like some I've experienced. The body shows the typical lacquer checking found among predominant vintage Casinos. Marks and bumps are present but not predominant...a bit of light buckle rash...marks here/there. Frets appear original and the neck (and back of neck) are in excellent condition. The case is non original Epi branded hard shell. The tuners were replaced at some point in history (I hunted down original replacement vintage tuners w/ bushings that I have not installed and would include for the right deal), the pick guard and hardware are missing, whammy bar missing, Serial stamped at back of head stock marked with a "2" (possibly a factory second), and blue Kalamazoo label in the f-hole is torn. I bought this guitar locally from an individual and I had it checked out by an acquaintance who is a former Gibson Custom Shop employee and who now is a boutique guitar builder residing in my city. The guitar is genuine, cool, and a solid player.

For obvious reasons I have been hesitant to part with this guitar, however, I seldom play it primarily because I am not entirely comfortable with the shape/size. I am also hesitant to sell via Reverb or Ebay and wish to find a more knowledgeable buyer who seeks a player Casino. These go for big money in collector condition(s) and I understand the missing bits on this one render it below collector values. I'm looking to get this guitar to a good home for a fair price to someone who can appreciate the guitar. I'd prefer someone local but will ship to an interested party and I am willing to provide excellent photos, conversation, and information to the interested party. I thought I'd list on LTG simply because I have a long history here...in hopes that someone here (or your friend) may have interest in owning a vintage player Casino at a cost that is not out of the stratosphere. Also renewed my old Reverb listing for this guitar today. It is time that I move this along to help fund another guitar purchase. More and high res photos available to those interested in learning more.

Reasonable offers for a quick/easy transaction considered.

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Kitarkus said:

....I am willing to provide excellent photos, conversation, and information to the interested party....

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Can't do much more than that. Good luck with the sale!

BTW, the "2" likely indicates a refurb, with the torn label likely caused by tearing off the MIRC taped-on serial number.

On the other hand, after looking up prices for 1967 Epiphone Casinos, I cannot believe the kind of money these guitars are going for! What, just because John Lennon played one? I mean, he didn't play all of them!

Anyway, again, best of luck!

Cougar said:

Can't do much more than that. Good luck with the sale!

BTW, the "2" likely indicates a refurb, with the torn label likely caused by tearing off the MIRC taped-on serial number.

On the other hand, after looking up prices for 1967 Epiphone Casinos, I cannot believe the kind of money these guitars are going for! What, just because John Lennon played one? I mean, he didn't play all of them!

Anyway, again, best of luck!

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These are desirable vintage guitars and very expensive on the market..not just John....but Paul, George, Keith, Noel, Gary Clark and many more. Mine is priced at a bargain imo given overall condition but due to the missing bits. Factory 2nd in vintage market is meaningless, however, non original tuners, case, whammy, and pick guard do impact. Any-who.....good guitar looking for a good home.

Kitarkus said:

Mine is priced at a bargain imo given overall condition but due to the missing bits.

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I had a '66 single pup Casino that I liked a lot.

You don't have a price in your ad. What is it?

walrus

walrus said:

I had a '66 single pup Casino that I liked a lot.

You don't have a price in your ad. What is it?

walrus

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I have it listed on Reverb for $2850. Feel free to make me an offer....go ahead man....re-live your youth!

Cougar said:

BTW, the "2" likely indicates a refurb, with the torn label likely caused by tearing off the MIRC taped-on serial number.

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Cougar, what do you mean by "MIRC?"

I believe MIRC stands for: "Musical Instrument Reclamation Corp."

Guitars refurbished by that company get a new sticker over the original serial number, and will not be covered by the original manufacturer's warranty (irrelevant for a used guitar, in any case).

Good luck with the sale of that guitar, Kitarkus!

geoguy said:

I believe MIRC stands for: "Musical Instrument Reclamation Corp."

Guitars refurbished by that company get a new sticker over the original serial number, and will not be covered by the original manufacturer's warranty (irrelevant for a used guitar, in any case).

Good luck with the sale of that guitar, Kitarkus!

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For what its worth....I have a local acquaintance who is a known high-end boutique guitar manufacturer. In his younger years he was employed by Gibson's Custom Shop and I wanted him to check out the old Casino for me and so I brought this Casino to him about 8 months ago for him to check it out. He loved the guitar, validated it for me, and proposed that his guitar shop owner buddy would be interested in buying it (I wasn't interested at that time). He commented that Gibson and Epiphone produced both products on the same manufacturing line back in the 1960's...and he suspects that this is a 'factory 2nd' due to it having a Gibson ES330-like burst vs. the Casino-like burst. Funny thing was...he noticed this immediately....and I had owned the guitar for 10 months and hadn't noticed. He told me such errors were common.....and suggested that the painter(s) might not have had their coffee yet that morning.

geoguy said:

I believe MIRC stands for: "Musical Instrument Reclamation Corp."

Guitars refurbished by that company get a new sticker over the original serial number, and will not be covered by the original manufacturer's warranty (irrelevant for a used guitar, in any case).

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"Yes", but this guitar wouldn't fit their business model if they were even around in '67 to have refurbed it.
https://mircweb.com/
They specialize in buying manufacture's B-stock, warranty returns, and unsold inventory as they did for Fender/Guild at close of Corona and Tacoma, re-furbishing/repairing as needed in house, and selling 'em to dealers at good discounts due to the non-eligilbility for warranty.
They are not in the biz of re-furbing used guitars.

geoguy said:

Good luck with the sale of that guitar, Kitarkus!

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"Yes"
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Those old guitars have such good-looking wood. I love the back and the back of the neck on that one.

Email sent - but does it have the original pickups? Do you have any specific measurements on the neck width at the nut and/or thickness?

Super nice! I've owned a couple Gibson factory "2"s…no idea in either case why they were so stamped. (Solid colors in both cases so it wasn't a sunburst pattern mess up.)

-Dave-

Jeff Haddad said:

Email sent - but does it have the original pickups? Do you have any specific measurements on the neck width at the nut and/or thickness?

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Responded and spoke via phone. I'll call and/or write you with the measurements later today/this evening. Thanks.

adorshki said:

...but this guitar wouldn't fit their business model if they were even around in '67 to have refurbed it.

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Exactly, not sure why MIRC was in the discussion about a vintage 1967 guitar...Factory second does not mean MIRC.
Ralf

SFIV1967 said:

Exactly, not sure why MIRC was in the discussion about a vintage 1967 guitar...Factory second does not mean MIRC.
Ralf

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Caougar's comment in post #2, followed by Dreadnut's inquiry in post #7 and Geoguy's explanation in post #7.
I assumed Cougar just wasn't familiar with their business model or history.
He might have just been joking, though, using one of my own favorite methods, the "deadpan delivery", in which case he "got" me.
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I thought maybe he meant "Made In Republic of China." But of course, this guitar was built in the old Gibson factory in Kalamazoo, MI.

adorshki said:

Caougar's comment in post #2, followed by Dreadnut's inquiry in post #6 and Geoguy's explanation in post #7.
I assumed Cougar just wasn't familiar with their business model or history.
He might have just been joking, though, using one of my own favorite methods, the "deadpan delivery", in which case he "got" me.
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No, I'm not that sophisticated . . . just trying to answer Dreadnut's question re: "what does MIRC stand for?".

Back on topic, it sounds as though Kitarkus has a seriously-interested prospective buyer.

geoguy said:

No, I'm not that sophisticated . . . just trying to answer Dreadnut's question re: "what does MIRC stand for?".

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No, meant maybe Cougar was deadpanning based on the extreme unlikelihood of MIRC actually having done a refurb on it, if he actually knew that.
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geoguy said:

Back on topic, it sounds as though Kitarkus has a seriously-interested prospective buyer.

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Go, kitarkus! GO GO GO !!
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Still for sale. Jeff has a similar guitar with nearly identical neck measurements and was seeking something different. I'm still looking for a buyer.

FWIW, when I taught in a music store in the mid-70s, the favorite shop guitar among the teachers was an Epi Casino from about this period. I can't speak to its sound amped, but played nicely and had enough acoustic sound for the little room we used for lessons.
Brad