Lennon's Framus Hootenanny 12 String Found

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It is hard to understand the situation that existed in the UK from the view point of countries, say Canada and the US, that have never experienced all out war on their own soil. (Yes, there was the Civil War in the US, but that was a long time ago and was somewhat regionally restricted in the devastation that it caused.)

The UK had unfathomably large war debts to pay off. It was particularly indebted to the US. It's manufacturing sector had been bombed into rubble or converted exclusively to armaments production. It had little to offer, initially, as post-war trade goods. It had little capital to help with reconstruction. It had also lost a lot of its adult male population, a lot of skilled labour lying in domestic and European cemeteries.

Hence it tried to restrict imports to avoid further indebtedness.

My relatives in Yorkshire endured great penury. I believe that rationing of food, fuel, and other goods persisted until 1954. Even in the 1960s, Canadian mail order catalogues from Eatons and Sears offered care packages of tinned and other non-perishable foods that Canadians could buy and have delivered to family and friends in the UK.

It was not until the prosperity of the mid to late 60s that the UK's economy took off again. There were almost two decades of relative poverty and economic struggle after the war.
 
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That Framus does sound pretty darn good in the Hide Your Love Away song. I gather the 12 string that comes in on right speaker for the choruses is George then, using same 12 that John records left speaker main track with?
 

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That Framus does sound pretty darn good in the Hide Your Love Away song. I gather the 12 string that comes in on right speaker for the choruses is George then, using same 12 that John records left speaker main track with?
Veer: It's a great song of course, and it is right out of my favorite period or Beatles records and their production values--simplicity, succinctness, dynamics created by small changes, like a single note pattern played for the chorus only. George Martin influence all the way.
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dang this band wrote some great songs. no way is there another band that wrote as many good songs as the Beatles. there are too many to count. most of their studio albums would be considered Greatest Hits albums for nearly every single other band.
 

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Veer: It's a great song of course, and it is right out of my favorite period or Beatles records and their production values--simplicity, succinctness, dynamics created by small changes, like a single note pattern played for the chorus only. George Martin influence all the way.
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so your contention is George Martin is a big reason their songs are so good?
 

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I quite like the shape of the pick guard. Might look good on my D-25. Let's see:

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Nah, looks better on the Hootenanny.

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After WWII here sooo many things had extra tax - just trying to keep the money in own country.

Many other countries had it, too.

70:s changed a lot - still quite expensive - but reachable ( is that a word ? )
 

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so your contention is George Martin is a big reason their songs are so good?

It would be more accurate to say Martin is a big reason they were recorded so good...
I agree with Walrus, of course, but I also think GM also helped them hone and arrange songs to make them even better, which taught them to become even better song writers.
 

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It is hard to understand the situation that existed in the UK from the view point of countries, say Canada and the US, that have never experienced all out war on their own soil. (Yes, there was the Civil War in the US, but that was a long time ago and was somewhat regionally restricted in the devastation that it caused.)

The UK had unfathomably large war debts to pay off. It was particularly indebted to the US. It's manufacturing sector had been bombed into rubble or converted exclusively to armaments production. It had little to offer, initially, as post-war trade goods. It had little capital to help with reconstruction. It had also lost a lot of its adult male population, a lot of skilled labour lying in domestic and European cemeteries.

Hence it tried to restrict imports to avoid further indebtedness.

My relatives in Yorkshire endured great penury. I believe that rationing of food, fuel, and other goods persisted until 1954. Even in the 1960s, Canadian mail order catalogues from Eatons and Sears offered care packages of tinned and other non-perishable foods that Canadians could buy and have delivered to family and friends in the UK.

It was not until the prosperity of the mid to late 60s that the UK's economy took off again. There were almost two decades of relative poverty and economic struggle after the war.
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How much did the cash flowing into the country from The Beatles, Herman's Hermits et al hasten the end of the import ban?</veer>
 

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An embargo against U.K. in the 60s ? Never heard of any ! Such a thing would surprise me a lot ;
The so called ‘embargo’ was more of a restriction in how many things could be imported from other countries. These things included musical instruments, records etc. Regardless of the rights or wrongs, it was intended to help the UK balance of payments in the post war years.

It was actually lifted in 1959,
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EDIT: Just noticed, that was already written in the Reverb article...

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<veer>
How much did the cash flowing into the country from The Beatles, Herman's Hermits et al hasten the end of the import ban?</veer>

Good veer. I would guess that the cash flow helped a little, but probably paled in comparison to the years of accumulated war debt.

A tangent to the veer might be to ask how much did UK repayments, with interest, of war debt help fuel US 1950s post-war prosperity.
 

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so your contention is George Martin is a big reason their songs are so good?
I think Mr Martin was an excellent musician and had a profound influence on the Beatles. He found fertile ground for his production ideas with them.
They did many very complex orchestral numbers also, but my favorites are the dead simple ones where the dynamics are so well controlled.
Rubber Soul, Revolver.
Of course I think Beatles 65 is one of their all-time best.
I like simple tight arrangements.
Buck Owens, The Band, you get the drift.
End Repeat Veer, and thanks for listening....
 
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