1975 Guild D25 cedar top

[General Dreedle]

There's one for sale a drive away, wondering what people's experiences are with this guitar. They also have a D44 pearwood from 1967. Both look in good condition, very honest seller so no hidden problems are likely

 

[JohnW63]

Probably not a simple drive from me. The D44 isn't very common, I don't think. Gets good reviews, as I recall. I didn't know the D25 came in Cedar, to be honest.

Lots of more informed posters will follow up my post, I'm quite sure.

 

[HeyMikey]

There's one for sale a drive away, wondering what people's experiences are with this guitar. They also have a D44 pearwood from 1967. Both look in good condition, very honest seller so no hidden problems are likely

I believe the cedar topped is very rare. Go for it. If you don’t bond with it someone here might. I think Wileypickett or another member may have one?

Edit: I did a search and I can’t find mention of a D25 cedar, but I did find mention of a DV6 cedar. Perhaps that’s what the seller has?

 

[Guildedagain]

1975 Guilds should be good sounding guitars. Prob a stained Spruce top, unlikely to be Cedar?

 

[SFIV1967]

I did a search and I can’t find mention of a D25 cedar, but I did find mention of a DV6 cedar.

There were very few DV6 High Gloss with Cedar tops, like that 1997 one:



I also can't remember or find a D-25 with cedar top. They should be all sitka (or hog).

Ralf

 

[wileypickett]

I have a D25 w/ cedar top -- less than 25 made as I recall. (Maybe search archives as it has been discussed before.)

Very nice guitar!

 

[General Dreedle]

1975 Guilds should be good sounding guitars. Prob a stained Spruce top, unlikely to be Cedar?

I'm going there to ask questions and get a serial number. I can't find anything that says they made a cedar top

 

[General Dreedle]

I have a D25 w/ cedar top -- less than 25 made as I recall. (Maybe search archives as it has been discussed before.)

Very nice guitar!

There you have it! Thanks

 

[HeyMikey]

I have a D25 w/ cedar top -- less than 25 made as I recall. (Maybe search archives as it has been discussed before.)

Very nice guitar!

Huh, I guess I was right the first time and my memory isn’t all that bad. Shhh don’t tell my wife. Then she’ll expect me to remember everything on my Honey Do list!

 

[plaidseason]

There's a lot to be said for cedar.

In the early 2000s I played a used DV6 Cedar and it's one of my few not-buying regrets. And probably only second to a SGGC OM I played in the late 1990s on that list.

 

[SFIV1967]

I have a D25 w/ cedar top -- less than 25 made as I recall. (Maybe search archives as it has been discussed before.)

Very nice guitar!

Huh, I guess I was right the first time and my memory isn’t all that bad.

There you have it!

Wait a minute...Before you all get too excited...Are you sure you have a D-25 ??? I thought you have a DV6 with a serial number very close to above DV6 but a missing label and hence Hans wouldn't say for certain it was cedar on your DV6?

Ralf

 

[Westerly Wood]

Wait a minute...Before you all get too excited...Are you sure you have a D-25 ??? I thought you have a DV6 with a serial number very close to above DV6 but a missing label and hence Hans wouldn't say for certain it was cedar on your DV6?

Ralf

witnessing a probable "Ralf'd" in real time...

 

[adorshki]

I believe the cedar topped is very rare. Go for it. If you don’t bond with it someone here might. I think Wileypickett or another member may have one?

Edit: I did a search and I can’t find mention of a D25 cedar, but I did find mention of a DV6 cedar. Perhaps that’s what the seller has?

I don't recall ever hearing of a D25 cedar either, and do recall the DV6 cedar. But sure enough if I say they never made a cedar-topped D25 one'll pop up. I'm almost tempted to say it.

 

[geoguy]

It appears that Ralf's memory is correct (see post #15 in this thread):

Question about Used Guild DV6

My local Guitar Center has one for $919. Did some research and can't seem to find much pricing wise, except this price seems a bit high, based on 1 I saw on Reverb, and a couple of older 'sold' ones. The Guitar played fantastic. Tried it out last night, and only put it down because the store...

letstalkguild.com

 

[chazmo]

I'm not aware of any cedar-topped D-25 either, especially from 1975ish which would be an arch-back. It would be an odd combination to have the usual D-25 arch-back with a cedar top, to me anyway. I don't think I've ever played a cedar topped arch-back. Cedar makes a wonderful soundboard wood, albeit usually not as durable as spruce or mahogany. I know there aren't many 12-strings with cedar tops because often they won't hold up to the string tension. Maybe that's because most vendors cut the tops too thin?? DUnno.

So, I'm assuming the DV-6 cedar version had a solid back, right?

 

[General Dreedle]

I read that the arch back started in 76, this guitar was not an arch back

 

[wileypickett]

Damn! And thanks for the correction!

 

[HeyMikey]

And just like that it’s back to taking my ginkgo biloba again tomorrow morning.

 

[adorshki]

I'm not aware of any cedar-topped D-25 either, especially from 1975ish which would be an arch-back. It would be an odd combination to have the usual D-25 arch-back with a cedar top, to me anyway. I don't think I've ever played a cedar topped arch-back. Cedar makes a wonderful soundboard wood, albeit usually not as durable as spruce or mahogany. I know there aren't many 12-strings with cedar tops because often they won't hold up to the string tension.

It is supposed to be a slightly softer wood, wouldn't surprise me if that's the primary reason it's not often seen on 12-ers. Or perhaps doesn't "chime" enough?

So, I'm assuming the DV-6 cedar version had a solid back, right?

A-yup, just had cedar tops. IIRC there were only 6 (the usual build increment) or a very small number like 12.

I read that the arch back started in 76, this guitar was not an arch back

No, the arched back actually started appearing in '73 while they still had 'hog tops. The most all-hog archback D25 sightings are from '73, then spruce tops became predominant, pretty much completely replacing 'hog tops by late '74 except for a few outliers.

I always remember member Spiderman had what he claimed was a '76 all-'hog archback, for one. I was skeptical and suspected it must have actually been a mahogany-stained spruce top version, but now I'll take his word for it, with all the oddities I've seen in the intervening years.

Since it was a flatback, I suspect you really did have a DV6 cedar.

 

[E-Type]

I read that the arch back started in 76, this guitar was not an arch back

My '74 has an arched back and a spruce top. I think "most" '72 are all mahogany and flat-backed while "most" '74s are arched back with a spruce top. I think '73 is the main transition year.

I do see the reference to '76 being the transition year a lot, so there must be someplace on the Internet that has it wrong and that information keeps making the rounds.