? about older D25

[wildbill]

Howdy everyone, I was doing my normal pawn shop looking when I found an older D25 that followed me home. Its going to need alittle work like frets, and a small crack in the top, maybe a neck set (big maybe on that) but for what I gave for it, I can jusify it. But I do have a couple of questions.
1) The Guild emblem on the headstock is almost faded away, can these be replaced?
2) Are these dovetail neck joints ? what glue did Guild use ?
3) What are the back, sides and top made of ?
4) The label has D25 and ser# 62384- where and when was it built ?

Here are a couple of pics. Any info will be very helpful. Cant wait to get it all fixed up !!!

 

[eastcoastbuzz]

Looks like you have a '72 D25 with mahogany top, back and sides. It was made in Westerly, RI and should sound great once you get it fixed up!!! Does have dovetail neck joint.

 

[wildbill]

Thanks for all of the info guys !

Have a great day !

 

[dapmdave]

1) The Guild emblem on the headstock is almost faded away, can these be replaced?

Coastie is trying to gather folks together on an order of "sticky thingies" and it could be exactly what you need.

Guys, do you thinks it's a good idea to fool around with the logo? It's character.

Dave

 

[killdeer43]

Guys, do you thinks it's a good idea to fool around with the logo? It's character.

Dave

Ditto on that sentiment.
We vintage characters have certain parts that fade on us and to try to replace/recreate/rejuvenate them is often futile. :wink:

Joe

 

[valleyguy]

Leave that logo alone, it's "mojo", gives it some character.

Have fun with that beauty. Odd that it appears the back is not arched (I see braces), as I thought all D25s were.

 

[dapmdave]

Leave that logo alone, it's "mojo", gives it some character.

Have fun with that beauty. Odd that it appears the back is not arched (I see braces), as I thought all D25s were.

I can't be specific (due to lack of knowledge!) but I seem to recall that there were all mahogany flat-back D-25s in the early 70s?

Here's another: http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/msg/1873737184.html

Dave

 

[adorshki]

Leave that logo alone, it's "mojo", gives it some character.
Have fun with that beauty. Odd that it appears the back is not arched (I see braces), as I thought all D25s were.

As Dave noted the very first D25's were all-hog flatbacks, introduced in '68. Transition to archback/spruce top occurred circa 1974 with a few archback/hogtops "escaping" Westerly during that period. We've seen '73 archbacks and '74 flatbacks here so the change appeared to be going on during the course of production.
My search-fu is AFU at the moment so I can't search a couple of the owners I know of (Steffan? Mojo?) but IIRC they were discontinued (1999?) before Westerly closed and reintroduced in Corona as flatback hog-tops(?) again for a SHORT time (02-04 I think), then replaced with GAD-25's, the chinese-built instruments.
BTW I think the logo is metallic silk-screen ink if you'r dead-set on re-touching it.
And the dovetail glue is good old fashioned hideglue. A LOT of it. :lol:

 

[wildbill]

Ok...you talked me into it...I,m going to leave the logo just the way it is Old, Vintage and Worn... :lol:

 

[adorshki]

Ok...you talked me into it...I,m going to leave the logo just the way it is Old, Vintage and Worn... :lol:

If in fact you wanted to do a full-blown restoration right down to a refinish or you just think it can be polished up REAL nice then touching up the logo would make sense.
AS fro the dovetail neck joint I made the observation about a LOT of hideglue because that's what seems to make Guild neck resets notoriously difficult and why some luthiers shy away from the job.
Whatever you do, do it for love!

 

[spiderman]

My 74 D-25 is one of the arch back (laminate, no back braces) mahogany back, mahogany top versions.

Harmony H-173 bought in 1960 (retired), Alvarez AC60S 2008, Eastman AC320ce 2008 "Hybrid", Guild GAD-JF30E(blonde) 2008, Guild JF55 1997, Guild D25M 1974, Martin Grand J35E 2009, Martin D12-20 1970
"I'm glad there are a lot of guitar players pursuing technique as diligently as they possibly can, because it leaves this whole other area open to people like me."
Richard Thompson

 

[evenkeel]

Nice Pawn Shop score. Good on ya for bringing that senior citizen back into playing shape. Like others in LTG land I'm in the less is best camp re: restoration.

Let us know how things go.