FNG
Enlightened Member
You chuckleheads are just trying to drive up the value of your Westerly Guilds. :lol: :lol: :lol:
FNG said:You chuckleheads are just trying to drive up the value of your Westerly Guilds. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'll have to second that question. :?West R Lee said:Why is your D50 not a "real" Guild?
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FNG said:A D-55 probably isn't the heads up competition to the D-28. I would say the D-50 Bluegrass Special is. The standard for production guitars is probably around 40 percent off retail, at least the new guitars I've bought. So the street value is about the same, but it has red spruce top and bracing. If you compare a D-28 with adi upgrade, price wise, there is no comparison. I think the D-28 Marquis, which is a D-28 with an adi top, and some other construction differences, retails for 5299. The D-50 retails for 2899. And the D-50 I own, I would put up against any comparable Martin out there, for both value, and most importantly sound. Despite the fact that it's not a real Guild. :lol: :roll:
fungusyoung said:IMHO, a Martin should be more expensive than a guitar being made at a brand new factory by a company that's done next to nothing to promote themselves or to create a niche in this market within the past 10 years.
Guild needs to earn their place all over again because that place will be a totally new destination vs. what they held traditionally in the acoustic market. Martin's been extremely consistent.
West R Lee said:FNG said:A D-55 probably isn't the heads up competition to the D-28. I would say the D-50 Bluegrass Special is. The standard for production guitars is probably around 40 percent off retail, at least the new guitars I've bought. So the street value is about the same, but it has red spruce top and bracing. If you compare a D-28 with adi upgrade, price wise, there is no comparison. I think the D-28 Marquis, which is a D-28 with an adi top, and some other construction differences, retails for 5299. The D-50 retails for 2899. And the D-50 I own, I would put up against any comparable Martin out there, for both value, and most importantly sound. Despite the fact that it's not a real Guild. :lol: :roll:
Oh and Effin, on the Martin comparison, I wasn't referring to side by side, same woods, etc., I was merely referring to upper end production Martin guitars. I do think a D35 Martin would come pretty close to a D55 side by side, and I can buy one of those here for right at $2000.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-Martin-D35-Dre ... 2eacb52724
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West R Lee said:Why is your D50 not a "real" Guild?
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FNG said:West R Lee said:Why is your D50 not a "real" Guild?
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Because it was not made in Westerly. :lol: :lol: :roll: :wink:
I do agree that the jury is still out the NH operation. But by the looks of it, they are trying to make this a special operation, and are looking to impress a very cynical crowd who is savvy on the history of Guild. Sounds like they are really trying to restore Guild to it's glory days. I for one am looking to get my chubby little hands on a couple to see what they sound and look like!
learnintoplay62 said:Why don't they try some good old throw down marketing challenges. Try our D whatever against Martins H whatever and if you don't agree we'll throw in an old Westerly for yer troubles
West R Lee said:We go to the Arlington show and there are several Martin dealer, a Gibson trailer full of guitars, and Taylor dealers running out your ears. Then when you open an Acoustic Guitar magazine, there's always this breathtaking advertisement to the effect of the Golden Gate bridge suspended by Taylor guitar headstocks, or power lines suspending high tension wires from the necks of Taylors, always great Gibson and Martin ads, but Guild stopped taking out ads in AG.
As I've said for a long time now, put some Guilds in the hands of performers, do some advertising and Guild might really begin to take off. If Guild doesn't do those things, I suspect Guild in Connecticut will be short lived, especially at these prices.
And Effin, I can go down to the local music store and buy a D35 Martin off the rack for $2000 tomorrow, but I won't, I'm a Guild guy. I just grabbed the eBay ad for grins, I suspect he's trying to get his money back.
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Yes, it's a little annoying, but I'd almost rather have that than to pick up a great guitar that had been played too hard and put away wet.learnintoplay62 said:Yeh Sandy, I hate that to about Sam Ash. However, I just kind of walk behind the counter and give 'em the stink eye as I do. If they don't like it toooooo Bad
Such a great conundrum... I really resent going into a store that segregates the high-end and low-end merchandise, particularly when they cordon the good stuff off... The whole point of going to the music store is to get hands on so you can make a purchase decision. Many of us just take that experence and go buy used off the web. But occasionally the stores make a sale, and there you go.Brad Little said:Yes, it's a little annoying, but I'd almost rather have that than to pick up a great guitar that had been played too hard and put away wet.learnintoplay62 said:Yeh Sandy, I hate that to about Sam Ash. However, I just kind of walk behind the counter and give 'em the stink eye as I do. If they don't like it toooooo Bad
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Chazmo said:[I don't know what the right answer is, but I don't think I would shop at Sam Ash anymore. That said, if it were my only choice (as it was in college when I bought my Ibby 12 string), it's still better than buying used sight-unseen/sound-unheard.
West R Lee said:We go to the Arlington show and there are several Martin dealer, a Gibson trailer full of guitars, and Taylor dealers running out your ears. Then when you open an Acoustic Guitar magazine, there's always this breathtaking advertisement to the effect of the Golden Gate bridge suspended by Taylor guitar headstocks, or power lines suspending high tension wires from the necks of Taylors, always great Gibson and Martin ads, but Guild stopped taking out ads in AG.