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SFIV1967

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Sprechen sie Japanisch?
No, but since I have been to Japan many times I know at least how to work with Google translate to translate the letters.

Not sure what the reference to the KIWAYA Co. Ltd. in Tokyo is about as this is a Ukulele company.
Their business is "Ukulele manufacturing, wholesale and retail business, ukulele school management, ukulele museum management".
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And by the way, that talk is about that Kansas KW-250 model shown here, not the Angelica...

Ralf
 
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I know how to say a few things but what little Hiragana/Katagana I studied is lost.
 

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I like it but I've always known Sam Ash's "house brand" is Carlo Robelli, and I vaguely recall seeing other Angelicas in the UK/EU.

This Cortez has been on Reverb a while and might be similar (if not built at the same plant). Too bad for the cheesy tuners and the hefty price.

The Cortez is nice, priced too high no doubt, but one the finest MIJ lawsuit era guitars I ever had was a Cortez, as well as my set neck SG doubleneck, an amazing piece. There's nothing particularly cheesy about those tuners, they have covers, are sometimes seen without covers, stout shafts, brass gears, they're not particularly defective but 50 years after they were made they are often sloppy and worn out.

Cortez double neck, Cortez the Killer, like ten radical improvements over the actual Gibson in one model.

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and then install cheap tuners.
You mean like Guild? I always get a kick out of this, when a Japanese "copy" guitar has the same tuners as they put on D35's and F30's for years, they're "cheap tuners" which they were, and by the 70's the availability of decent and cheap USA tuners probably mostly gone.
lookalikes have always been a huge kink of mine
I love em. Each one represents a whole lot of post war history, the Japanese becoming an indomitable force in the guitar world very early on. The copies they made to satisfy a domestic demand for mostly unavailable and seriously overpriced American guitars range from the mundane to the sublime, some examples walking all over "the real thing".

I'm especially fond of my Martin lookalikes. This one is all solid woods, 3 piece back. I picked it up at a well frequented pawn shop for $100, disgustingly grimy. It cleaned up. Matao was a brand of NW Music stores.

Matao Rosewood dread. And this is a case where the "copy" guitar uses top grade American tuners, this isn't that unusual as I had a Madeira with Grovers also.

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Quite possibly Braz Rosewood? Real Milk Bottle Grovers.

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I had this guitar sold on CL for $1200, a guy willing to travel from out of state with "Benjamins" and after a lot of snow related setbacks to meeting up, I eventually had to end the would be transaction, I just can't let go of it. It sounds rad, huge, loud, super overtones.
but most of them are all laminate making those prices very silly.
Prices are silly but the laminates are not.

From the lowliest Yamaha FG-75 - 1st guitar- to my two lam top MIJ dreads, you wouldn't really know or care that it was a lam top, except it won't crack.

I've studied these 3 ply tops, mindblowing, ultra thin, sometimes near invisible as the longitudinal grain joins at the soudhole. Obviously made from very quality tonewoods, with real nice grain on top. It works, it resonates just fine, sometimes extra fine.

A lam top Yamaki.

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I never realized the top on that one was also lam til several years after I owned it, sent from Japan during Pandemic. I showed it to a guy who played the hell out of it, sounded just fab, and neither one of us noticed it was lam, on a sunny porch.

Extra fancy binding.

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And back.
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And this is lam, but man does it sound good. Honestly, it just about sounds better than my '73 D35 which a lot drier sounding. In this case the seller thought it was a solid top and it was forgivable.

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Same tuners as the same year D35, they work fine.
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You're preaching to the converted, Guildedagain!

Anyone can spend big bucks and get a nice guitar, but those MIJ replicas can be just as much fun on a budget.

Out of my three wrap tail LPs, only the CS Roasted mahogany R4 to the left is US, but the Edwards Jeff Beck and the Bacchus BLS-54 are really well crafted and costed me a fraction of the Gibbo.
 

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You're preaching to the converted, Guildedagain!

Anyone can spend big bucks and get a nice guitar, but those MIJ replicas can be just as much fun on a budget.

Out of my three wrap tail LPs, only the CS Roasted mahogany R4 to the left is US, but the Edwards Jeff Beck and the Bacchus BLS-54 are really well crafted and costed me a fraction of the Gibbo.

Dang, nice LP's.

I wanted an SG real bad last year, too many Townsend & Iomni videos apparently, and I knew a Gibson wasn't to be it, too much money now for the older ones, so I got an 80's Burny, changed the electronics but the guitar is sublime after a good fret polish, quite possibly the best SG I've ever had and I've had many, more than I can count.

6 3/4 lbs soaking wet.

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These have interesting history. Made for/sold by Fernandes. Reputedly these deep bevel/long tenon models were made by Fujijen. Fujijen denies any involvement.

The natural relic-ing on these Japan guitars is really nice.

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I'll probably never look for another SG, says it all.
 
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This Cortez has been on Reverb
About 45 years ago, I used to sell Cortez and Kizan Japanese guitars, but I don't recall any of them having the Guild look-a-like logo. The fret inlays and the way the backs looked, yes. I have none of them now, but the old Cortez might be up at my folk's cabin. That's the last place I saw it.
 

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I have owned two Gibson and one Orville by Gibson SG but sold them.

I'm actually getting a bigger kick out of these two Vibrola equipped Japanese SGs, and I absolutely adore the mix of features (SG Special/Standard/Custom) on my very rare Burny. And if that wasn't enough, the TRC says "Deluxe".
 

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I meant to mention that to my knowlege, all Cortez guitar were Japan without exception and that they are not the predecessor of Cort guitars which were probably never made in Japan.
 

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I have owned two Gibson and one Orville by Gibson SG but sold them.

I'm actually getting a bigger kick out of these two Vibrola equipped Japanese SGs, and I absolutely adore the mix of features (SG Special/Standard/Custom) on my very rare Burny. And if that wasn't enough, the TRC says "Deluxe".

I think I'm ready to give that Greco some love ;[]
 

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all Cortez guitar were Japan
Later Cortez were made in Korea - I've owned a MIK Cortez quasi LP Custom that wasn't bad at all.

I don't know whether they were made by Cor-tek or not - many Japanese brands bore a Spanish influence in their names, and Cor-tek may have not been the reason why Cortez were christened thus.
 

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Your Cortez double neck is phenomenal, GA! It's not hard to believe it's better than the Milwaukee original in some ways - Page himself never spoke highly of the EDS1275

Is it set necks as I am kind of guessing from the image?
 

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Let's go back to topic with this frugal Ariana located in Switzerland.
 

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Shapes of things to come? Check out this (I'd say very rare) Guild-esque effort from the brand with the three tuning forks
 

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Shapes of things to come? Check out this (I'd say very rare) Guild-esque effort from the brand with the three tuning forks
A lot of the Guild-like guitars in this thread only have cosmetic Guild-like features and have very little resemblance to actual Guild models.
This last one from Yamaha doesn't even belong in this thread. During that period Yamaha already had established its own typical features like pickguard shapes and this one definitely has a replacement guard.

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
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It's understood that the similarities are purely esthetic - imitation is the best form of flattery.

While it's true Yamaha offered original designs earlier than most other Japanese manufacturers, they nonetheless sold near identical copies (Studio Lord, Lord Player, Super R'n'Roller) into the early Eighties.

Yet if I have mistaken a repro pickguard for an attempt at mimicking the look of Guild's flat tops I apologize, Hans.
 

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Let's go back to topic with this frugal Ariana located in Switzerland.
That date (not serial number) 51.5.18 means she is from May 18, 1976. As year 51 in Shōwa time is 1976.

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