Best Guild Hollowbody?

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Give me the scoop all of you hollowbody guys what are the best of the Guilds and why? also what do you think of Gretschs? I would go with a Strat or Tele for a Solid body and I have a strat on hold with a friend right now, so, I am interested in Hollowbodies since I have always had an interest in them and I have had a couple, an Epiphone and a Oscar Schmidt in the past.
 

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JimbowF212 said:
Give me the scoop all of you hollowbody guys what are the best of the Guilds and why? also what do you think of Gretschs? I would go with a Strat or Tele for a Solid body and I have a strat on hold with a friend right now, so, I am interested in Hollowbodies since I have always had an interest in them and I have had a couple, an Epiphone and a Oscar Schmidt in the past.

Well Jim, here's one slightly biased opinion in favor of an old Hoboken X175 like mine

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Sweet. 8)
 

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twocorgis said:
JimbowF212 said:
Give me the scoop all of you hollowbody guys what are the best of the Guilds and why? also what do you think of Gretschs? I would go with a Strat or Tele for a Solid body and I have a strat on hold with a friend right now, so, I am interested in Hollowbodies since I have always had an interest in them and I have had a couple, an Epiphone and a Oscar Schmidt in the past.

Well Jim, here's one slightly biased opinion in favor of an old Hoboken X175 like mine

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Sweet. 8)

As Sandy wisely illustrated, the big red bin on the right is for hollowbodies without Guild on the headstock. :lol:

In all seriousness, my humble ol' T-100 is more fun than a thousand kittens exploring a meadow of catnip.
 

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I, too, felt there had to be some significance to the juxtaposition of the Guild and the recycling bin, and David, I think you solved the mystery. :lol:

Joe

*And the added image of the kittens and the meadow of catnip..... what can I say? :wink:
 

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There's no "best", there's only "best for the job". Consider the kind of music you want to play on it, see what kind of hollowbodies would be good for that, and go from there. Without wanting to sound like too much of a fanboy, I have yet to play a hollowbody Guild that was a lemon.

As to what I think of Gretsches - vintage Gretsches are, especially compared to Guilds, usually too expensive for what they are, and fairly bad guitars from a construction/quality control point of view.
I have gotten vintage Guilds off the internet without being able to play them, but I'd never do that with a vintage Gretsch, unless it's too cheap to pass up. If you find a nice one and are willing to invest some money to make it play, they can be killer sounding, well-playing guitars - but it will probably cost money, and more than a nice older Guild at that.

New Gretsches - steer clear of the pre-2003 (pre-Fender involvement) ones, because most of them are overbuilt and heavy, lifeless guitars with sub-par pickups and electronics. When Fender got involved, the Gretsch lineup starting resembling the "golden era" Gretsch guitars a lot more, and they're really nice guitars.
 

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littlesongs said:
In all seriousness, my humble ol' T-100 is more fun than a thousand kittens exploring a meadow of catnip.
Sounds like the voice of experience. Cat-herder, eh?
 

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I've liked the X-175s I've played, and there's one from about the same era as Sandy's in this thread:
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I'd seriously consider it, even with the non-original pickguard, but then I'd have to sell one of my other guitars, probably the X-170.
However, I would echo what Walter said about best for the job. Consider what kind of music you want to play on it and how it will be different than guitars you already have. Another consideration is whether you want a full acoustic or not. I love my Artist Award for swing rhythms and some amplified leads (when playing with an acoustic guitarist), but for a lot of situations my X-170 is a better choice. (Especially if I ever go back to playing in sleazy gin mills :wink: )
Brad
 

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Walter Broes said:
There's no "best", there's only "best for the job". Consider the kind of music you want to play on it, see what kind of hollowbodies would be good for that, and go from there. Without wanting to sound like too much of a fanboy, I have yet to play a hollowbody Guild that was a lemon.

As to what I think of Gretsches - vintage Gretsches are, especially compared to Guilds, usually too expensive for what they are, and fairly bad guitars from a construction/quality control point of view.
I have gotten vintage Guilds off the internet without being able to play them, but I'd never do that with a vintage Gretsch, unless it's too cheap to pass up. If you find a nice one and are willing to invest some money to make it play, they can be killer sounding, well-playing guitars - but it will probably cost money, and more than a nice older Guild at that.

New Gretsches - steer clear of the pre-2003 (pre-Fender involvement) ones, because most of them are overbuilt and heavy, lifeless guitars with sub-par pickups and electronics. When Fender got involved, the Gretsch lineup starting resembling the "golden era" Gretsch guitars a lot more, and they're really nice guitars.

He speaketh the truth. I have a 2008 Gretsch Setzer SSLVO that is a fabulous guitar in every way. I bought it to "replace" my Guild X170T. I still have them both. While similar in theory, they are very different guitars.

The electronics on Gretsches is... odd, to put it nicely. There are different setups, but the one I have has a volume for each pickup, a master volume, a pickup switch and a tone (mud) switch. If you've spent your whole life playing Gibson-setup electrics, it can be challenging to remember what you need to change on the Gretsch. I think the Sezter Hotrod Gretsched have it right. Master volume and a pickup switch.

Between the Guild and the Gretsch, my Guild is a beefier guitar - typical Guild over-built goodness. It's got a different tone and feel to it than the Gretsch, but you'd only know that if you sat and played them side by side. I've played out with my Guild and people have said "Nice Gretsch". :)

As for Guilds, I know people love the vintage models like the T100s, but they feel too small and dainty to me. They have tiny necks and the fretboard meets the neck sooner which makes all the frets in the wrong spot for me. I prefer the Starfire III for a slimline hollowbody with a Guildsby. As much as I love vintage instruments, I prefer the 90s reissues because they have wider necks that I really enjoy playing.

Do what we've all done. Buy one of each and keep the best (or all of them...) :)
 

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JimbowF212 said:
Give me the scoop all of you hollowbody guys what are the best of the Guilds and why? also what do you think of Gretschs? I would go with a Strat or Tele for a Solid body and I have a strat on hold with a friend right now, so, I am interested in Hollowbodies since I have always had an interest in them and I have had a couple, an Epiphone and a Oscar Schmidt in the past.

Very difficult to answer without qualifiers. As an all-around guitar I like the X-170/X-170T as it can do just about anything fairly well. It is almost hollow, but does have a small center post under the bridge to reduce feedback contributing to its versatility. If you are looking for pure jazz the Benedetto Artist or Benedetto X700 would really get it done. The Starfire IV/4 or V are also very versatile, but they have a fairly substantial center block, so they are more semi-hollow. I have never played an SF-III, but the Kinks made some good music with one in the day. I use my X-500 for jazz which is very nice, and my X-170T and SF-4 for everything else, and I have no complaints! My Bluesbird is for sale and is also quite versatile as it looks like a solidbody but has internal chambers that significantly decrease the weight while giving it a fantastic tone that has been described as hollowbody-like.
 

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Of the hollowbody Guilds I've played, the Starfire III and II certainly has great appeal in the thinline division. A P-90 equipped SF III is one I foolishly did not grab, and remember fondly. For bigger body Guilds, a mid 70s X-175 really impressed. Now a 2001 X-500 impresses in the same way, and is the best playing larger electric I've tried.
 

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Thanks All, you have given me some great Ideas. I think I need to explain why I am looking in this direction though. I will be using this type of Axe at church and home to play Travis style and some std lead picking. I want a hollow or semi-hollow because that is what Travis and Chet used. Travis was most associated with the Gibson Super 400 and Chet made Gretsch a highly sought after Semi-hollow with his signature Country Gentleman. I have a great affection for the Gretsch but, as you have pointed out the price tag is way to High. I have seen several Guild Hollows and Semi-hollows go for much less. I have always highly respected the Guild instruments but, I lean, as I am sure a lot of you do also, to the older Westerlys and they're predisessors. I saw a beautiful Blonde SF 3 on the Elderly website but, No cash or I would have snapped it up right away. I think I am leaning more toward the thinlines so when I get some cash I will post on here for one. Right now I am gathering info and doing research. Thanks and keep it coming. BTW I am not a Gibson fan.
 

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Holy cow! That's like saying, "considering everyone's wife here, which wife is the best?".

Your tone appears tilted towards strats. I've had dozens of guitars and have never owned a Fender. There are tons of different guitars out there. You really need to try different ones and decide which YOU like. There are sooooo many choices. Full hollow, semi-hollow, different thicknesses, small body, bigger body, solid chambered, full solid, solid with one kind of wood, solid with a base wood and maple cap........
 

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Jim - My two cents, I favor single coils (dynas, P90's, etc.) on hollowbodies. The older Dearmond Dynasonics on the '50's era Gretsches are simply outstanding. For me the craftsmanship of the instrument and the quality of the pickup are difficult to seperate, e.g., Guild/Franz, Epiphone/New Yorkers. I really like them all. The one I reach for more than any other though is my '53 Gretsch Electro II. Hope this makes sense.
 

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Jack FFR1846 said:
Holy cow! That's like saying, "considering everyone's wife here, which wife is the best?".

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No, I already have the answer to that ? Mine!!!
I want to know what Guild Hollow or Semi-Hollow Body gives the best bang for the buck and sounds the most like a vintage pre-Baldwin Gretsch. I do like Strats and Telies but, I tend to lean toward the Semi-hollows such as the Starfire and Gretsch Country Gentleman. I don't like heavy guitars that much because since my open heart surgery I can't hold them up to well on a strap. I played a nice Gretsch Electromatic yesterday it was light and easy to play and handle the only thing that I would change would be the unwound #3 string which drove me crazy due to the fact that I am an acoustic player. I may just hold out for a vintage Gretsch unless I find a great Guild at a better price. Either way I think it's a win and a score for me.
 

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Hi Jim...always good to see your posts, and I still want to share your playing...hoping some of it rubs off...I have a Thinline, made in the Korean factory where the Fenders are made, pretty much the same guitar.. This one has been upgraded to a S.D. Humbucker in the neck. and the tuners are upgraded.. great guitar..for a few hundred bucks, traded an Epi Sheriton for it.....Steffan
 

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Jim,

Like everyone has said, it basically is finding the right tool that makes it easiest for you to do the job.

I had used my CE-100D for years as a big band guitar, as basically a lower cost version of an ES-175, and it did a great job with that. I never liked the pickups, though, so I changed them to the GFS NYii single coils, and there are posts on that subject from a couple years ago. That guitar is now a good jump blues or rockabilly band guitar, too, so long as the volumes aren't too high. No sound post makes for out of control feedback. Billy D-Lite uses his for rockabilly.

So, in a real loud band, I would then go to my old Gretsch, which has the "trestle" bracing, much better at volume.

Bottom line -- I like them both! Speaking of wives, mine would probably rather I sell one guitar or the other, but I'm not about to ask her... :wink:

Scott
 

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get a Rickenbacker.

No, seriously, different tools for different things. For me, the Franz single coil pickups were a bit too bright, the mini humbuckers ideal. For others something else entirely.

For me, a thin hollowbody that comes alive with the sound and vibrates in my arms is ideal. For others, they want a centre block to counter feedback.

If you buy second hand and you try and you don't like it's unlikely you'll lose money. it's pretty much a risk-free venture.

Share the love :)
 

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The Godin 5th ave is a really sweet guitar with p90 godin pickup(s),,,,,decet price too..Steffan
 
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