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[armchair guitarist]

Hi, this is gonna be short and not much information but here it goes. About 6 years ago I saw a guild acoustic guitar that may have been a jumbo with single cutaway and block inlays. It was used and had a hole where the pick was coming into contact near the pickguard. It played really well, easy to fret and was loud. The asking price at guitar center was $1100.

Now, I know this is not much to go on but as I am unfamiliar with guild guitars (Ovation early 80's) I thought I might see what you all might think. Thanks!

 

[adorshki]

Hi, this is gonna be short and not much information but here it goes. About 6 years ago I saw a guild acoustic guitar that may have been a jumbo with single cutaway and block inlays. It was used and had a hole where the pick was coming into contact near the pickguard. It played really well, easy to fret and was loud. The asking price at guitar center was $1100.

Now, I know this is not much to go on but as I am unfamiliar with guild guitars (Ovation early 80's) I thought I might see what you all might think. Thanks!

HI welcome armchair. Some the most popular jumbo-bodied cutaways were the 16" lower bout width "Grand Auditorium" family. The big cutaway seller in that family was the F47 which was available in maple, mahogany, and rosewood bodies.
And they had block inserts on the fretboard.
Here's on from New Hartford:

From the early '90's through late '04 they had Venetian cutaways:

 

[armchair guitarist]

Wow! That looks like the one. I'm definitely interested in that. Thanks for your help!

 

[adorshki]

Wow! That looks like the one. I'm definitely interested in that. Thanks for your help!

The "Mce" 's are maple, btw, and the plain "F47ce" is the 'hog version. There were actually many iterations of that body platform going back to about '84, but the F47's I showed are probably the most common, and thus my "educated guess".

You could for example get a version with a 24-3/4 scale 24-fret neck in all the woods and even an arched back version of each tonewood.
Unfortunately I've never seen one of those necks with a 1-11.16 nut, they all have 1-5/8 nuts, and my pipedream is an F47Rce with shortscale and 1-11/16 nut.

The 24-3/4" necks were phased out in '94, replaced with 25-5/8 scale 1-5/8" nut necks. I have a shallow body version of that outline in my F65ce, looks like this (arched maple back):

(Not mine, I don't have pics, but from this thread: https://letstalkguild.com/ltg/index...westerly-rhode-island-1-900-delivered.214190/)

He says it's similar to an F50/F55, but it's actually an inch less width in lower bout. F50's are true 17" jumbos.
In any case it was one of the most top of the line flattops, in case that's the kind of thing that floats your boat. (All that shell work is real)

 

[armchair guitarist]

The f65ce looks good too. Unfortunately I don't have many options where I live. I certainly want to play before I buy.

 

[SFIV1967]

The f65ce looks good too. Unfortunately I don't have many options where I live. I certainly want to play before I buy.

Welcome to LTG!
Those models like the F-65CE above had an oval soundhole, here a 1992 ad:



So if she had a round soundhole it was not one of them but what Al showed earlier something like a F-47CE.
Can you remember what wood was used for the body on the one you played? Mahogany or Maple or Rosewood?
Are you based in the US or in Europe?

Ralf

 

[chazmo]

Welcome aboard armchair... Good luck in the hunt. If you can ever get a snapshot of what you were looking at, we can help you identify further. I especially don't know what you mean about a hole near the pickguard (and I'm curious).

 

[armchair guitarist]

Welcome to LTG!
Those models like the F-65CE above had an oval soundhole, here a 1992 ad:



So if she had a round soundhole it was not one of them but what Al showed earlier something like a F-47CE.
Can you remember what wood was used for the body on the one you played? Mahogany or Maple or Rosewood?
Are you based in the US or in Europe?

Ralf

Hi, I'm in Texas and I think it was maple. Of course, it has been about 6 years now and when I contacted guitar center no one knew what I was talking about. I understand, they get turnover.

 

[armchair guitarist]

Welcome aboard armchair... Good luck in the hunt. If you can ever get a snapshot of what you were looking at, we can help you identify further. I especially don't know what you mean about a hole near the pickguard (and I'm curious).

Hello, the hole near the sound hole was simply from the instrument being played a lot. I think most important is that it felt and looked like a jumbo but again this is the one and only time I've ever played a guild acoustic. The sound hole was definitely round and not oval.

 

[chazmo]

Hello, the hole near the sound hole was simply from the instrument being played a lot. I think most important is that it felt and looked like a jumbo but again this is the one and only time I've ever played a guild acoustic. The sound hole was definitely round and not oval.

Cool. OK. Well, a hole from playing is pretty weird, and nothing to do with normal playwear. I mean, even Richie Havens didn't have holes in his tops. Anyway, welcome aboard.

If what you remember had a round soundhole with a Florentine cutaway (sharp point), it is almost certainly the F-47 like Al was mentioning. If it was Venetian, there are a few other possibilities as well as the earlier F-47s.... Anyway, best of luck hunting something down (if that's your goal). F-47s are a nice breed, by the way.

 

[armchair guitarist]

Thanks. I'm finally in the market for a new acoustic and I've played all of the taylors martins some Gibson's at guitar center, but the guild that I played that one day far exceeded any of the others.

 

[adorshki]

Cool. OK. Well, a hole from playing is pretty weird, and nothing to do with normal playwear. I mean, even Richie Havens didn't have holes in his tops. Anyway, welcome aboard.

Actually, he did, and tops were reported to be dotted with chewing gum inside at one point. Reported by somebody who saw 'em come into Westerly for repair (or re-top), think it was Hideglue or WorkedinWesterly.

 

[adorshki]

Thanks. I'm finally in the market for a new acoustic and I've played all of the taylors martins some Gibson's at guitar center, but the guild that I played that one day far exceeded any of the others.

Yeah, they have excellent mid-range punch.

Suggest keeping an eye out for F47's of any year/tonewood to try out locally, also "F4ce"(arched 'hog back), and F30ce (shortscale low-bling version of F65ce)BUt F47's were made continuously from '98 through '14 so there's a fair amount of opportunity out there just for that model.

 

[Rayk]

Huh I never thought of the F47 as a jumbo . I was trying to think of a jumbo that came with block inlays at a ran a blank probably the beer but the F55e and F512’s heck I assume all the F50’s and F512’s had block inlays just the 412 and 212 where dots ? Not counting exceptions . lol ?????

 

[SFIV1967]

Huh I never thought of the F47 as a jumbo .

The F-47CE from Westerly (not the NH one) as Al showed above in post #2 was called "Mini Jumbo" and certainly looked like a Jumbo. She had a very different shape from the NH F-47CE.

Ralf

 

[GGJaguar]

F-47RCE

mini Jumbo Custom Ctwy 1395 Case+Guitar Guild f47rce Acoustic electric - musical instruments - by owner - sale -...

$799 each with Hard Cases ================== Washburn Cumberland J28s12dl Deluxe Quilted Maple Handmade 12 String Acoustic Electric Guitar + Washburn Cumberland J28s12dl Deluxe Cutaway Quilted Maple...

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[Rayk]

The F-47CE from Westerly (not the NH one) as Al showed above in post #2 was called "Mini Jumbo" and certainly looked like a Jumbo. She had a very different shape from the NH F-47CE.

Ralf

Yup I seen that the pic but failed to read . Thanks ! Most excellency mini jumbo I want one . That in a sense is why I have my curiosity peaked in the 74 ? F30 mini jumbo.

 

[Rayk]

F-47RCE

mini Jumbo Custom Ctwy 1395 Case+Guitar Guild f47rce Acoustic electric - musical instruments - by owner - sale -...

$799 each with Hard Cases ================== Washburn Cumberland J28s12dl Deluxe Quilted Maple Handmade 12 String Acoustic Electric Guitar + Washburn Cumberland J28s12dl Deluxe Cutaway Quilted Maple...

losangeles.craigslist.org

That’s pretty ! I want to play it !

 

[Cougar]

Some the most popular jumbo-bodied cutaways were the 16" lower bout width "Grand Auditorium" family.

Then there's the slightly smaller 15.75" lower bout Grand Orchestra Doyle Dykes signature model....

 

[armchair guitarist]

I want one of each. Is that asking too much?