D-25 schematic

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Hello Guiders,
Does anyone know where I might find a schematic for a 1973 D-25 hog, suitable for framing? : ]
I already checked with Guild.
Thanks,
shodoro
 

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I doubt they have them here, but this site I used to use a lot. they stopped being as soon as Fender closed down Westerly.


There is a link to Hans' site here as well, he probably has a schematic if anyone would. Or Grot.

And welcome to the LTG!
 

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Do you mean a blueprint? My wife got me a framed Les Pail blueprint which is pretty cool, but that exists because of patents.

Actually I suppose patent drawing is more accurate.
 

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I doubt they have them here, but this site I used to use a lot. they stopped being as soon as Fender closed down Westerly.


There is a link to Hans' site here as well, he probably has a schematic if anyone would. Or Grot.

And welcome to the LTG!
Thanks for the info.
 

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Hello Guiders,
Does anyone know where I might find a schematic for a 1973 D-25 hog, suitable for framing? : ]
I already checked with Guild.
Thanks,
shodoro
Hi @shodoro, welcome!

Assuming you meant "blueprints" since "schematic" normally means a drawing of an electrical circuit which D25's didn't have:

Guild didn't have blueprints in '73. They didn't have prints until after Fender bought them and made a formalized set of spec drawings for classic models, explained here:
https://www.vintageguitar.com/21567/guild-in-the-post-fender-era/

"The move necessitated major changes to the guitars; the folks in Westerly made guitars based on long-practiced techniques evolved over time. They did not have engineering drawings, and the process was not portable, since none of the Rhode Island crew would move to California. This was where the “vintage defensible” strategy was implemented. Drawings had to be created to detail specifications on each part of each instrument. Those drawings reflected what had been learned in the “vintage defensible” investigations."
 
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Do you mean a blueprint? My wife got me a framed Les Pail blueprint which is pretty cool, but that exists because of patents.

Actually I suppose patent drawing is more accurate.
Yes, I suppose blueprint or patent drawing would be more accurate.
Thanks
 

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Hi @shodoro, welcome!

Assuming you meant "blueprints" since "schematic" normally means a drawing of an electrical circuit which D25's didn't have:

Guild didn't have blueprints in '73. They didn't have prints until after Fender bought them and made a formalized set of spec drawings for classic models, explained here:
https://www.vintageguitar.com/21567/guild-in-the-post-fender-era/

"The move necessitated major changes to the guitars; the folks in Westerly made guitars based on long-practiced techniques evolved over time. They did not have engineering drawings, and the process was not portable, since none of the Rhode Island crew would move to California. This was where the “vintage defensible” strategy was implemented. Drawings had to be created to detail specifications on each part of each instrument. Those drawings reflected what had been learned in the “vintage defensible” investigations."
Thanks for the info & link.
 

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Thanks adorshki for that quote! This is where part of the magic was at Westerly. They were building musical instruments that humans could bond with because of their individual sound and feel. Not manufacturing perfectly identical cars or computers.

"the folks in Westerly made guitars based on long-practiced techniques evolved over time. They did not have engineering drawings"

I feel that musical instruments can be more than just tools. The really special ones at least, are a bit more.
 

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Somewhere along the line here, I'm pretty sure someone posted drawings of the bracing for a D4. Which is still kind of fun. I thought I had saved them, so I'll look around.
 
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GuildD4Spec1.jpg
 

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@plaidseason , do you know where those x-ray-like pictures that we had of the dreads is? They showed the bracing of the tops, if I recall. Was it you that made them? I can't remember what they're called, but (other than what you posted) I think they'd make a rad print for a wall or something. I don't think we had any of D-25s, though, so they might not be what shodoro is looking for.
 
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