d100 a quality unit?

i want a d100

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I have been trying to find a d100 for a long time, first i would like to hear some objective first hand opinions about the sustain,tone, and volume of this later model dreadnought series guitar, i am more cautious than normal when it comes to guilds made in this time period, i had a d60, all though it looked like my g37 it was the single worse guild i have ever strummed,not a small difference i'm talking night & day. i also had a dv73, even though it looked like a million bucks for the money the sound quality was not present, [in my opinion].I did play a dv52 that was made in the same time period as these others and it did seem to be up to snuff for sustain, tone, and volume in realation to it's price.Was there anything about the D100 design[structurally] that set it apart from the other top quality guilds of that era?
 

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While I can't answer your questions, I'd like to say welcome! A few D100 owners should be able to provide feedback.

And I wish you still had that DV73 so I could buy it! :mrgreen:
 

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i want a d100 said:
...i am more cautious than normal when it comes to guilds made in this time period, i had a d60, all though it looked like my g37 it was the single worse guild i have ever strummed,not a small difference i'm talking night & day...

Wow. While I do believe that each guitar should be judged on it's individual merits I find it astonishing that you feel the D-60 was that bad! These were top-of-the line instruments made under the care of Kim Walker. I have only played one, disclaimer, but it is an outstanding guitar - unusually quick response for a dreadnought and rich tone throughout the registers. Timbre definitely within the Guild family. Maybe your ears were just so tuned to the sound of that maple guitar...?
 

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The D100 is the best of the best.
The best materials were used but this alone doesn't make the guitar sing.
As a side note, even though you may not like the tone of a guitar, someone else may find it to be the best sounding guitar ever.

So just because it's a D100, that doesn't mean that you will find it the have the best sound.
It will though, have a look to kill for!
 

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I got to use my D-100C before it went off to Guild for some repair work for just a brief period of time, but hopefully I can answer some of your questions.

My D-100C, while having a similar feel of a D-55 (or a DV-72/73 for that matter), has a few manufacturing differences, from what I've heard.

The official Guild description lists the wood in the D-100 as being the "most select AAA spruce and finest rosewood" they had to offer and I can tell you that it sure looks that way, although interestingly the Guild literature also says the DV-72/73 had AAAA spruce.

As far as sound goes, my D-100C (even before the neck reset, etc...) had a deep tone, wonderful sustain, and high volume output. I can only hope that when it comes back it will be even better. As far as I know, with the exception of the carvel heel and supposed wood selection, I'd assume it has very similar construction to that of a D-55. I do note, however, that the nitro finish on mine seemed significantly thinner than on my D-55.

Now I'd like to make a comment about your experiences with your prior Westerly Guilds. The general consensus is that Westerly Guilds were built like tanks, which is a good thing... until over time the top deflects a bit and the saddle height becomes too low to actually move the top the way its supposed to move. What I'm getting at is this: A solid built Westerly needs adequate string break angle to drive the top in a satisfactory manner. The only disappointments I've had from Guilds in general (I've seen Tacomas with the same issue, of course) has been when the string break angle was too low to produce the sound the guitar was capable of making.

This is why I am ever vigilant on saddle height and break angle on any guitar purchase.

FYI: My JF-100C suffers from this problem at the moment. I'm saving up for the neck reset its going to need at some point. It sounds great as it is, but it lacks the deepness that I know its capable of.

Just my 2 cents.
 

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I want,

I guess your user name says it all, so there's no getting around what your sights are set on as far as which Guild you want.
On the other hand, I would probably be happy with any of those other models that were "thrown under the bus." Throw one or two my way and watch me smile. :wink:

Welcome and good luck in your quest,
Joe
 

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Frosty said:
i want a d100 said:
...i am more cautious than normal when it comes to guilds made in this time period, i had a d60, all though it looked like my g37 it was the single worse guild i have ever strummed,not a small difference i'm talking night & day...

Wow. While I do believe that each guitar should be judged on it's individual merits I find it astonishing that you feel the D-60 was that bad! These were top-of-the line instruments made under the care of Kim Walker. I have only played one, disclaimer, but it is an outstanding guitar - unusually quick response for a dreadnought and rich tone throughout the registers. Timbre definitely within the Guild family. Maybe your ears were just so tuned to the sound of that maple guitar...?

Honestly, I own a D60 and I'm less impressed with it than I am my F65ce, which is the finest acoustic guitar I've ever played in my life. I think a lot depends on one's playing style. I'm not nearly the guitarist that Frosty is. But I'm ok. And for the kind of music I play, the F65ce is a dream-come-true. The D60 doesn't really distinguish itself until I play it loud. The F65ce sounds wonderful for my light-touch.

The worst-sounding Guild I ever played was a 1976 D40 I owned. My D25 and my F65ce smoked it. The D60 smokes it too. But I traded it to a guy who really pounds on the guitar. He makes it sound great and I never could.

Can't answer about the D100. I'd sure like to own one though.
 

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Frosty said:
i want a d100 said:
...i am more cautious than normal when it comes to guilds made in this time period, i had a d60, all though it looked like my g37 it was the single worse guild i have ever strummed,not a small difference i'm talking night & day...

Wow. While I do believe that each guitar should be judged on it's individual merits I find it astonishing that you feel the D-60 was that bad! These were top-of-the line instruments made under the care of Kim Walker. I have only played one, disclaimer, but it is an outstanding guitar - unusually quick response for a dreadnought and rich tone throughout the registers. Timbre definitely within the Guild family. Maybe your ears were just so tuned to the sound of that maple guitar...?
I bet he's talking about the later D-60...basically a maple D-55...
 

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Never played a D-100, or a DV-73, although I've lusted after both of them for quite some time :twisted:

Gotta agree with you on the DV-52 though.
 

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I have only played one, disclaimer, but it is an outstanding guitar - unusually quick response for a dreadnought and rich tone throughout the registers.
Yep, the Gruhn Walker D60 I had sounded great...
 

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dreadnut said:
Never played a D-100, or a DV-73, although I've lusted after both of them for quite some time :twisted:
Have to go along with the lust quotient (LQ) on this one. But then, the things I've lusted after in my lifetime could get me....arrested? :twisted: :twisted: Double your twisted evil!!

Joe
 

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Jimmy Carter had that problem too. I think a nice JF-55 sunburst would cure me of my current Guild lust.
 

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Join the club. I've had my sights set on a D100 for many years, even passed on a couple and had another that the seller had last minute remorse on.

On the D60, my unqualified opinion is that there were probably bad apples built in every model. I think when we buy sight unseen and unplayed, we take the chance of getting one of those, though I'll say I've really only been disappointed once. That was on a D55, however I've always been well aware of the awesome sound of the D55, and didn't let my first experience with one stop me from going after another.......I'm glad I did.

I think the D100 probably sounds very similar to the D55, DV72 or DV73, maybe with some subtle differences. I also think there may be a couple of lemon D100's out there, as there may have been with your D60, but I don't think there are too mant bad ones, I think it's the exception, not the rule.

I also think your issue with your D60 could be an issue of set up. Try adjusting the saddle, going to a new nut and pins, and defnately try different strings. You just might learn to love the D60. And on the D100, :wink: I'll let you know if I find another right after I buy mine.

Good luck to you,

West
 

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marcellis said:
I think a lot depends on one's playing style. And for the kind of music I play, the F65ce is a dream-come-true. The D60 doesn't really distinguish itself until I play it loud. The F65ce sounds wonderful for my light-touch.
The worst-sounding Guild I ever played was a 1976 D40 I owned. My D25 and my F65ce smoked it. The D60 smokes it too. But I traded it to a guy who really pounds on the guitar. He makes it sound great and I never could.
Say Marc, what gauge set do you use on your F65? I recently went back to extra lights (.010) from lights. I wanted to get a little softer feel but noticed it had a little bellying developing while I was doing the change. After a couple of weeks it was noticably reduced (almost gone) and I think it actually picked up some volume. Is the blue one "in house" yet?
 

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The d60 i had was built in 95, i tried changing the saddle, and strings, i am not talking a little difference either, the d60 maple guitar i had sounded like it had a blanket laying over the top, it was dead, the top just would not vibrate like it should.I have a 74 d44 maple, it's close to the best guild dreadnought i have tangled with, my 81 g37 is probably just a bit better with more bottom end because of the arch back. I guess as hard as it is to admit overall consistency is not as high as other top acoustic companies go.I know that now that the company is no longer on industrial drive in the town that i was born and raised in it has made me feel extra proud when i do find a dreadnought that rings a mile away, knowing some people personally that were at the factory for years one of them my aunt really gives me a special connection that i can't get from any other brands, when i find a d100 when i play it before i buy i want it to knock my socks off, if it doesnt i will start looking for a custom shop deco. Thanks for all the input
 

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i want a d100 said:
The d60 i had was built in 95, i tried changing the saddle, and strings, i am not talking a little difference either, the d60 maple guitar i had sounded like it had a blanket laying over the top, it was dead, the top just would not vibrate like it should...

I played quite a few '90s D60s (Not to be confused with the Walker era D60)... all were duds -- yet not nearly as bad as the DC-130
 

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As it is rare for Hideglue, a Westerly alum, to make such a blunt assessment, I think we can bank on it.

Thanks for the heads up, Hide.

Welcome to LTG, I-wanna-d100. Sounds like your assessment of the mid-90's D-60, which probably raised a few eyebrows at first glance, was accurate.

BTW, I could be mistaken, but I don't think anyone else on the forum owns a D-100, so first-hand information may be hard to come by.
 

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i want a d100 said:
snip...overall consistency is not as high as other top acoustic companies go...snip
I am a lurker (for the most part) over at AGF, and regularly read posts on the UMGF (useful info is found in lots of places!)... It certainly sounds to me like many/all acoustic makers occasionally make instruments that are less than steller sounding... sometimes much less so (pehaps excepting the custom/small shop and boutique makers... but they probably make them too, they just don't get on the market). Sometimes its certain years of build that get the rap... sometimes a certain model... sometimes an entire line is inconsistent. Just my $0.02.
 
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