D25M?

[killdeer43]

Any idea why this is listed as a D25M when it has a natural spruce top? Just an eBay mistaken identity?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380196856243&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Enlighten me, please.

Joe

 

[adorshki]

Upon closer reading of the ad, it says it has "no label", yet the guitar in the pic does..."stock photos", perhaps? I notice the photos have little digital watermarks in the corners but I don't know whose they are. Otherwise I'd go with your first idea even though it seems like these folks should know. Going a step further I don't like that line "shop adjusted for low action". Makes me wonder about possible related neck issues. But I've seen that line in others of their ads too so maybe they just paste new items into boilerplate ads..

 

[Sats]

I've been interested in this too, as I'd like to pick up a D25 (along with the '74 G37 they have offered). It does seem like a D25 (didn't they come this way – spruce top and all?). The label (or not) is confusing. I've been meaning to call them to see if they might do a deal on buying both the D25 and the G37 (as they are both pretty pricey in and of themselves). I've not dealt with Michael's Music before, so I cannot comment on their track record. I'll call 'em tomorrow and report out...

John

 

[adorshki]

I've been interested in this too, as I'd like to pick up a D25 (along with the '74 G37 they have offered). It does seem like a D25 (didn't they come this way – spruce top and all?). The label (or not) is confusing.
John

Hi John: D25's went through several stages. The very first iteration about '68-'73/74 had FLAT backs and mahogany tops. When they started making the archbacks ca. '74 a number were made with the mohogany tops. That D25M model number seems to get attached to a lot of D25's for whatever reason, seller ignorance or iniquity, probably both come into play at various times...FWIW I stumbled across a different auction for Cherry-topped '25 here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Guild-D-25-CH-Acous ... 2984807144
Although I'm not personally in the market I LOVE cherry stain tops, and the buyer doesn't seem as pretentious as some out there, which is always a good sign to me. Have fun searching!
Y'know what, having re-read your post I realize you might have already known about the D25 history. Sorry, didn't mean to sound pretentious MYSELF!

 

[killdeer43]

Here's my '79 D25M. It has a mahogany stained spruce top.
And it sounds great! :wink:

Joe

 

[adorshki]

Here's my '79 D25M. It has a mahogany stained spruce top.
And it sounds great! :wink:

Joe

Hey waitaminnit.... YOUR guitar doesn't have a label! You messin' with us, boy? :lol:

 

[killdeer43]

Hey waitaminnit.... YOUR guitar doesn't have a label! You messin' with us, boy? :lol:

Ah, memories!

Joe

 

[Sats]

Monseigneur Adorshki,

I'm keepin' track of that one too. ESPECIALLY because it comes outta Bend, OR – probably my favorite city... the high desert... Everyone there is cool. Though I'm a Clevelander, the Northwest rocks!

John

 

[wordlesschorus]

i think the "M" designation purports only to the color or stain of the top as those above have suggested. I may be wrong, and am too lazy to look it up lol, but the true mahogany Westerly D25s were made i've heard in limited quantities and only in select years like 1974 (someone correct me if im wrong, please). I also believe there were some flat, back-braced mahogany D25s knocking about in the Hoboken era as well at some point.

 

[killdeer43]

Bend, OR – probably my favorite city... the high desert...
John

We get down to Bend now and then and just love the feeling of that entire area. Lesser known but quite popular with those who know. :wink:
We on the west side of the Cascades appreciate the higher, drier eastside for perspective....and for drying out! :lol:

Cheers,
Joe

 

[dapmdave]

i think the "M" designation purports only to the color or stain of the top as those above have suggested. I may be wrong, and am too lazy to look it up lol, but the true mahogany Westerly D25s were made i've heard in limited quantities and only in select years like 1974 (someone correct me if im wrong, please). I also believe there were some flat, back-braced mahogany D25s knocking about in the Hoboken era as well at some point.

I think this is correct. My D-25M (has a label -really sez D-25M) is spruce-topped with hog stain. Looks JUST like kildeers. It's an '87.

Dave

 

[GardMan]

From the wording, I think the CASE for the D-25 has no label. The D-25 in the pics has the SN (on the headstock) listed in the ad. Clearly looks like an NT (not an M)... which I have never seen from that era. Doesn't mean they don't exist... but I wonder if it was refinished at one time? I don't recognize those tuners... stock would be 3-on-a-plate, and they don't really look like any of the "upgrades" I have seen from that era (Hans would know). Overpriced by ~$200 or more, IMO.

The G-37 looks nice in the pics... Note that it has the older, all mahogany neck and plainer silk-screended logo. It has open back tuners. My '74 has enclosed (Japanese) tuners, but I have seen open backs on older G-37s. Also a bit overpriced, IMO (by maybe $200).

I think $500-700 for each would be more realistic... but ask all the important questions! Good hunting, Dave

 

[solenoid lopez]

Looks more like a D35 with swapped out tuners.

 

[hansmoust]

The D-25 in the pics has the SN (on the headstock) listed in the ad. Clearly looks like an NT (not an M)... which I have never seen from that era. Doesn't mean they don't exist... but I wonder if it was refinished at one time?

Hello GardMan,

Guild did some 'natural top' D-25s around that period but all the ones I've seen did not have the NT suffix on the label after the model designation. They're somewhat rare though compared to the D-25M versions. I don't believe this is a refinished guitar and I'm quite sure that this one doesn't have the D-25M model designation on the label. It will probably say D-25.

I don't recognize those tuners... stock would be 3-on-a-plate, and they don't really look like any of the "upgrades" I have seen from that era (Hans would know).

I'm familiar with the tuners but they were not a regular option from Guild. I believe these were just sample tuners from Gotoh, that Guild decided to use. I've seen them doing that many times over the years and it actually makes sense. Why not use them!

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[killdeer43]

I sent the seller an email asking him to read the label, which is clearly visible in the two photos of the top.
Nice looking guitar but seemingly overpriced. Of course, if it were mine to sell..... :wink:

Stay tuned,
Joe