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Hello, people,
I'm hitting a personal milestone and just purchased a 1973 D-40. It's absolutely stunning. I'd like some advice - I live in the Central Valley of California and seeking advice on a humidifier and ideas for polish or oil for the body in order to maintain this beauty. I appreciate any and all advice!

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Hello, people,
I'm hitting a personal milestone and just purchased a 1973 D-40. It's absolutely stunning. I'd like some advice - I live in the Central Valley of California and seeking advice on a humidifier and ideas for polish or oil for the body in order to maintain this beauty. I appreciate any and all advice!

paulinca

Welcome. I'll make some general statements and see who chimes in to elaborate or correct me :)

The recommended humidity is 40%-50% if I remember correctly and it is easier to fix over-humidified than under-humidified. Regluing loose braces is easier than fixing cracks. It doesn't have to be rocket science. I keep the instruments in cases and when the room humidity gets to 40% or below then I use a soundhole humidifier. If the instrument is not in a case then you need to use a room humidifier to keep the room in the right range. Some folks will actually put a sensor in a case and one or more humidity sources elsewhere in the case.

There is much discussion on the subject - whether to leave instruments that are not currently being played in a rack in a room or in the case can be controversial based upon room humidity and the presence or absence of physically threats to the guitar such as children or pets who can reach the stand.

There is also discussion about soundhole humidifiers. Some people go for a system that can last a month before needing to be rehydrated. Others take great pride in their frugality and will punch holes in a soapdish and use a moistened kitchen sponge.

As for polish, there is a lot to be said for a cotton cloth and elbow grease but the key thing is that whatever you use make sure it contains no silicone.

Tagging @davismanLV since as an East Coast person I know nothing about California but he does and might be in similar conditions :)
 

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Welcome aboard, Paul! Any polish will be fine as long as it doesn't have silicone in it. Stay away from silicone. Many folks here don't use polish at all. A sponge with water and a light, sudsy soap solution works nice as long as you don't soak the wood. Anyway, it's all good.

The finish on your guitar is a Nicrocellulose lacquer so keep that in mind with respect to repairs in the future.

As for humidifiers, I use them all winter long here in the northeast, and I try to keep one room in my house close to 50%RH during that period. Not easy.
 

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All good advice above!! California can get dry, especially in the central valley area. Some people keep their guitars in cases, and for that a case humidifier or soundhole humidifier will work well. Some people seem to think that a guitar that isn't' being played MUST BE cased. I'm not in that camp tho. I like to see them and if I had to uncase and recase every time to play them, I'd play them less.

I struggle these days as I live in Las Vegas, NV now and having them out on stands means an AREA has to be humidified for them. That's what I use our atrium for these days. Enclosed in glass with moderate temps and a Kenmore humidifier struggling to keep the humidity between 40-45%. So it looks like this:

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You can see a tiny bit of the humidifier at the middle right of the photo.

Now guitar polishes are fine, but I have little use for them. Lacquer and poly finishes (I have both) are fairly durable and shiny and require little effort from me. When I change the strings, the entire guitar is cleaned with distilled water and a soft cotton cloth, and then polished with a clean dry one. This works just fine for me. Just a tiny bit of Bore Oil on the fretboard and bridge let it sit for a bit, then buff dry and you're good to go. I rarely if ever use polish. When I do use it, I use Virtuoso Guitar Polish and also the Guitar Cleaner. Go easy with them. And as has been mentioned, don't use furniture polish or anything with silicone in it. It can screw with glue joints and refinishing (if ever needed) will be impossible.

Now, you have an older guitar which is 50 years old. Not sure what shape it's in, but over time from contact with humans and life, guitars get dirty. And maybe has been polished before and there may be residue. If the guitar needs a really deep clean, you can use a solvent called NAPTHA which you can get at Home Depot or Lowes. It's safe for lacquer and poly finishes and dissolves the schmutz of life, dirt, polish, sweat, everything. Use quickly and sparingly, then follow with the water and polish dry. If it's been kept clean and nice, you probably don't need this step.

So that's my input. Depends on how you store your guitar, and what kind of shape it's in. You say it's "beautiful" so maybe just a light wipe down and you should be good to go. Virtuoso can be purchased online if you're desperate to polish. Mostly, though, I'd use distilled water, and soft dry cotton cloth.
 

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I have always used Kyser Lifeguard sound hole humidifiers in my acoustics. Never had a problem, so long as I dampen them weekly. My 2 Guilds are left outside of cases all the time on stands. I live in southwest and it is super dry here all the time.

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The only problem I've run into with the "wet sponge" humidifiers like the Kyser and the DampIt is that if you put them in your case, sometimes the water-soluble glue from the case runs and you get some guck on you guitar. Washes right off, but it's a side effect of essentially too much humidity inside the case. However, if my room humidifier goes on the blink, out come the dampits. :)
 

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The only problem I've run into with the "wet sponge" humidifiers like the Kyser and the DampIt is that if you put them in your case, sometimes the water-soluble glue from the case runs and you get some guck on you guitar. Washes right off, but it's a side effect of essentially too much humidity inside the case. However, if my room humidifier goes on the blink, out come the dampits. :)
I used to use dampits but hated the hook mechanism, which is basically a clamp, you put on a string etc, and it would get caught when I pulled it off to play, and make a big string noise etc, lol. The Dude just can't abide....

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Welcome! Good choice on a great gutiar! Nothing to add - just moving to the Acoustic forum. :)
 

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Congratulations on your new guitar. I was recently blessed with a 78 G37. Guild rules. I am a big fan of Dr Duck's Ax Wax. Amazing stuff, and John Duck is an exceptional human being.
 

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All good advice above!! California can get dry, especially in the central valley area. Some people keep their guitars in cases, and for that a case humidifier or soundhole humidifier will work well. Some people seem to think that a guitar that isn't' being played MUST BE cased. I'm not in that camp tho. I like to see them and if I had to uncase and recase every time to play them, I'd play them less.

I struggle these days as I live in Las Vegas, NV now and having them out on stands means an AREA has to be humidified for them. That's what I use our atrium for these days. Enclosed in glass with moderate temps and a Kenmore humidifier struggling to keep the humidity between 40-45%. So it looks like this:

Atrium.jpeg

You can see a tiny bit of the humidifier at the middle right of the photo.

Now guitar polishes are fine, but I have little use for them. Lacquer and poly finishes (I have both) are fairly durable and shiny and require little effort from me. When I change the strings, the entire guitar is cleaned with distilled water and a soft cotton cloth, and then polished with a clean dry one. This works just fine for me. Just a tiny bit of Bore Oil on the fretboard and bridge let it sit for a bit, then buff dry and you're good to go. I rarely if ever use polish. When I do use it, I use Virtuoso Guitar Polish and also the Guitar Cleaner. Go easy with them. And as has been mentioned, don't use furniture polish or anything with silicone in it. It can screw with glue joints and refinishing (if ever needed) will be impossible.

Now, you have an older guitar which is 50 years old. Not sure what shape it's in, but over time from contact with humans and life, guitars get dirty. And maybe has been polished before and there may be residue. If the guitar needs a really deep clean, you can use a solvent called NAPTHA which you can get at Home Depot or Lowes. It's safe for lacquer and poly finishes and dissolves the schmutz of life, dirt, polish, sweat, everything. Use quickly and sparingly, then follow with the water and polish dry. If it's been kept clean and nice, you probably don't need this step.

So that's my input. Depends on how you store your guitar, and what kind of shape it's in. You say it's "beautiful" so maybe just a light wipe down and you should be good to go. Virtuoso can be purchased online if you're desperate to polish. Mostly, though, I'd use distilled water, and soft dry cotton cloth.
You live in Vegas. Have you tried Dr Duck's Ax Wax? John Duck lives in Las Vegas with you. Great guy.
 

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Really? No Zippos in CA?
Zippo's own brand of lighter fluid can be shipped to California.


but it does seem to have naphtha.


Looking at various online comments suggests to me that there are some nuances to the ban. The labeled use and concentration may be a factor and if it is listed as a petroleum distillate it might sneak by.
 

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Zippo's own brand of lighter fluid can be shipped to California.


but it does seem to have naphtha.


Looking at various online comments suggests to me that there are some nuances to the ban. The labeled use and concentration may be a factor and if it is listed as a petroleum distillate it might sneak by.

Should've read the entire thread. :)
 
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