For those interested in cruise ships

[chazmo]

I went on a cruise once.....

Hahaha. That doesn't quite count, Effin.

 

[chazmo]

Oh, I just read up on this beastie. It was ordered by RC in 2016 before the pandemic... That's telling.

I've been on an RC cruise and enjoyed it with my family. I hope this endeavor doesn't put them out of business. Honestly, I have no idea who is cruising these days, but perhaps as the pandemic becomes a distant memory...

 

[Uke]

Floating petri dishes.

Six of my friends returned last week from a cruise -- they all came home with the [censored] virus.

 

[Uke]

From all I've heard, many are just floating smorgasbords w/ glorified and fancied up cafeteria food being served 24 hrs round the clock. Some people go on these setting out just to eat their money's worth.

Glorified hog troughs, a.k.a. "butt bars." When calculating retirement finances I decided that I didn't need to include items such as cruises. I've never been on one, and can die without that experience, thank you very much.

 

[davismanLV]

Six of my friends returned last week from a cruise -- they all came home with the [censored] virus.

My niece and her fiance went on a short cruise out of Los Angeles a year or so ago. They both came back with COVID.

 

[fronobulax]

The passenger's experience varies significantly based upon the number of passengers/size of the vessel. The experiences of being on an under 500 passenger cruise and an over 1000 passenger cruise are not directly comparable and the expectations need to be adjusted based upon size.

Tangentially, the CDC's data suggests Norovirus outbreaks are significantly less common on cruise ships than in health care facilities, restaurants and schools. So it is quite possible that the "petri dish" fears associated with cruise ships are not supported by statistics or experience.

Common Settings of Norovirus Outbreaks

Learn about where most outbreaks of norovirus illness happen.

www.cdc.gov

 

[Cougar]

The largest cruise ship - Icon of The Seas....

Too big.

 

[Uke]

The passenger's experience varies significantly based upon the number of passengers/size of the vessel. The experiences of being on an under 500 passenger cruise and an over 1000 passenger cruise are not directly comparable and the expectations need to be adjusted based upon size.

Tangentially, the CDC's data suggests Norovirus outbreaks are significantly less common on cruise ships than in health care facilities, restaurants and schools. So it is quite possible that the "petri dish" fears associated with cruise ships are not supported by statistics or experience.

Common Settings of Norovirus Outbreaks

Learn about where most outbreaks of norovirus illness happen.

www.cdc.gov

According to the link you proivided, "norovirus outbreaks on cruise ships account for only a small percentage (1%) of all reported norovirus outbreaks." I'm no statistician or epidemiologist, but does this have something to do with the possibility that only 1% of the world's population go on cruises?

 

[twocorgis]

Oh, I just read up on this beastie. It was ordered by RC in 2016 before the pandemic... That's telling.

I've been on an RC cruise and enjoyed it with my family. I hope this endeavor doesn't put them out of business. Honestly, I have no idea who is cruising these days, but perhaps as the pandemic becomes a distant memory...

Plenty of folks are cruising these days Charlie, and my girl is a big fan. We did one last year on a smaller Royal Caribbean ship to Nova Scotia, and I enjoyed it. Next year, we're booked on a Celebrity cruise out of Amsterdam to Norway and the Fjords, and I'm really looking forward to that. It's also on a smaller ship, as it has to be. You can't get those floating apartment buildings in a fjord!

 

[Rich Cohen]

No thanks. As B.B. King used to say, " The thrill is gone."

 

[chazmo]

Plenty of folks are cruising these days Charlie, and my girl is a big fan. We did one last year on a smaller Royal Caribbean ship to Nova Scotia, and I enjoyed it. Next year, we're booked on a Celebrity cruise out of Amsterdam to Norway and the Fjords, and I'm really looking forward to that. It's also on a smaller ship, as it has to be. You can't get those floating apartment buildings in a fjord!

Fair enough, Sandy... But I think we have to watch these companies for a few years to see if they survive.

 

[twocorgis]

Fair enough, Sandy... But I think we have to watch these companies for a few years to see if they survive.

If the cruise I was on was any indication, they are doing just fine! My girl went on a cruise with her sister after the Halifax cruise on one of RC's huge ships (sister to the Icon, not quite as big but the same class), and that one was at or near its capacity of 5900.

 

[davismanLV]

According to the link you proivided, "norovirus outbreaks on cruise ships account for only a small percentage (1%) of all reported norovirus outbreaks." I'm no statistician or epidemiologist, but does this have something to do with the possibility that only 1% of the world's population go on cruises?

Yeah, it's skewed and it's also limited to Norovirus.... there are other things to catch on a cruise.

 

[Westerly Wood]

oh my....

 

[davismanLV]

The passenger's experience varies significantly based upon the number of passengers/size of the vessel. The experiences of being on an under 500 passenger cruise and an over 1000 passenger cruise are not directly comparable and the expectations need to be adjusted based upon size.

Tangentially, the CDC's data suggests Norovirus outbreaks are significantly less common on cruise ships than in health care facilities, restaurants and schools. So it is quite possible that the "petri dish" fears associated with cruise ships are not supported by statistics or experience.

Common Settings of Norovirus Outbreaks

Learn about where most outbreaks of norovirus illness happen.

www.cdc.gov

So, in summary, you're ready to go on a cruise or hop on one of the gigantic ships to somewhere??

 

[chazmo]

I hear there's a cruise on the river Styx!

 

[fronobulax]

According to the link you proivided, "norovirus outbreaks on cruise ships account for only a small percentage (1%) of all reported norovirus outbreaks." I'm no statistician or epidemiologist, but does this have something to do with the possibility that only 1% of the world's population go on cruises?

That is why "Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics" is appropriate.

I'll claim some professional exposure to both statistics and epidemiology. Tell me what answer you want and I will then argue for or against the suggestion that the reporting rate of Norovirus exposure in a situation is related to the number of people in that situation.

 

[Uke]

oh my....

Diarrhea on this cruise not necessarily related to norovirus

 

[Westerly Wood]

I hear there's a cruise on the river Styx!

 

[chazmo]

That's my kind of cruise!