GF25 NT: Renaissance and Redemption

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many of you are now familiar with my 1987 GF25:
http://letstalkguild.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15669

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here's a quick story. back when i was looking to buy my F50R, i briefly (*ahem*) considered selling or trading in my GF25. a number of people, including my lovely wife and VIRTUALLY EVERYONE ON THE LTG SITE ;) , told me not to sell. so i didn't.

however, even after i decided to keep it, just for SAGs (sh!ts and giggles), i brought it in to a local shop to inquire about trade-in value. they looked it over, and then began to nickle and dime me to death, saying there was this problem and that problem, and who knew the extent of that other issue, etc... and then they quoted me a trade-in value that was heartbreakingly low.

so, my cocky little experiment failed. i had expected to offer up a tease of a tasty little trade in, and came away feeling that the first guitar i ever bought with my own money was on the verge of falling apart. :( and even though i had already decided against trading it in, i *certainly* would never have given it up for what they offered.

after that, i decided that if i was going to keep it, i wanted to give it a little TLC and fix it up for its 22nd birthday. i brought it to Leonard at a great little local Guild-authorized repair shop. i told him what i had been told, and he immediately brushed off almost all of it. "no, that's not really a problem." "that's completely normal for a guitar this age." "that may become a problem in about 10 years." etc... he did a quick truss rod adjustment for free, and we agreed that the only work that really needed to be done was to glue the requisite crack in the top finish that ran from the saddle to the edge, and no, the crack certainly did not extend to the interior wood or affect the bracing.

the conclusion: i picked her up yesterday. cost: $50, result: a beautiful little guitar that i now truly love and appreciate for what it is. and after that quick adjustment, she plays like a dream again! since yesterday afternoon, i've had a GF25 renaissance, while the F30 and even the brand new F50R can only look on. yes, i strummed the others each a few times just to re-experience the sound and feel, but this weekend, it's all about the 1987 GF25 NT. :D

i figure this community will understand my outrage... and my joy. :)

she's back, baby!
GF25.rich

... ... ...

also, to anyone who lives near the Twin Cities, MN, let me give an unplanned and unpaid referral for Leonard Shapiro Guitar Repair on University Ave. near the U of M. thanks Leonard!
 

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Nice recovery of a fine guitar! It is truly amazing what a few tweaks and a new set of strings can do for a guitar. All of a sudden they have that sound that inspired you to get them in the first place. I am always so happy to hear stories like this because it means that guitar is "Gonna Be Played and Played lots! :D
Good on ya mate! :wink:
 
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Congratulations, Rich! It's nice to hear a story about one that didn't get away for a change :)

I wish you another 22 years of enjoyment with this fine instrument.

<cue background music: Cinderella's, "Don't know what you got, 'til it's gone">

~nw
 

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was just giving the guitar a detailed overview for Hans, and i noticed on the label inside the body that it was made in Westerly. i've heard lots of guys on this board talk about Westerly guitars, and i guess i didn't really make the connection, but yeah... i have a Westerly.

now i have to check that F30 that's NOT FOR SALE. :D

:lol:
 

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ac1dt3st said:
was just giving the guitar a detailed overview for Hans, and i noticed on the label inside the body that it was made in Westerly. i've heard lots of guys on this board talk about Westerly guitars, and i guess i didn't really make the connection, but yeah... i have a Westerly.

now i have to check that F30 that's NOT FOR SALE.

That F-30 was made in Westerly as well, but it will not say Westerly on the label.

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
www.guitarsgalore.nl
 

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hansmoust said:
ac1dt3st said:
was just giving the guitar a detailed overview for Hans, and i noticed on the label inside the body that it was made in Westerly. i've heard lots of guys on this board talk about Westerly guitars, and i guess i didn't really make the connection, but yeah... i have a Westerly.

now i have to check that F30 that's NOT FOR SALE.

That F-30 was made in Westerly as well, but it will not say Westerly on the label.

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl
yup, i checked a few hours ago, and you are, of course, correct. no surprise there. :)
 

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ac1dt3st said:
many of you are now familiar with my 1987 GF25:
http://letstalkguild.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15669

S6HtD.jpg


here's a quick story. back when i was looking to buy my F50R, i briefly (*ahem*) considered selling or trading in my GF25. a number of people, including my lovely wife and VIRTUALLY EVERYONE ON THE LTG SITE ;) , told me not to sell. so i didn't.

however, even after i decided to keep it, just for SAGs (sh!ts and giggles), i brought it in to a local shop to inquire about trade-in value. they looked it over, and then began to nickle and dime me to death, saying there was this problem and that problem, and who knew the extent of that other issue, etc... and then they quoted me a trade-in value that was heartbreakingly low.

so, my cocky little experiment failed. i had expected to offer up a tease of a tasty little trade in, and came away feeling that the first guitar i ever bought with my own money was on the verge of falling apart. :( and even though i had already decided against trading it in, i *certainly* would never have given it up for what they offered.

after that, i decided that if i was going to keep it, i wanted to give it a little TLC and fix it up for its 22nd birthday. i brought it to Leonard at a great little local Guild-authorized repair shop. i told him what i had been told, and he immediately brushed off almost all of it. "no, that's not really a problem." "that's completely normal for a guitar this age." "that may become a problem in about 10 years." etc... he did a quick truss rod adjustment for free, and we agreed that the only work that really needed to be done was to glue the requisite crack in the top finish that ran from the saddle to the edge, and no, the crack certainly did not extend to the interior wood or affect the bracing.

the conclusion: i picked her up yesterday. cost: $50, result: a beautiful little guitar that i now truly love and appreciate for what it is. and after that quick adjustment, she plays like a dream again! since yesterday afternoon, i've had a GF25 renaissance, while the F30 and even the brand new F50R can only look on. yes, i strummed the others each a few times just to re-experience the sound and feel, but this weekend, it's all about the 1987 GF25 NT. :D

i figure this community will understand my outrage... and my joy. :)

she's back, baby!
GF25.rich

... ... ...

also, to anyone who lives near the Twin Cities, MN, let me give an unplanned and unpaid referral for Leonard Shapiro Guitar Repair on University Ave. near the U of M. thanks Leonard!

They all have their personalities, and are unique. Now what you need to do is call the first shop that told you it was worth peanuts, don't tell them who you are, and ask them if they know where you might be able to find a Guild GF 25? :wink: I'll bet they'll tell you they might be able to find one for about 4 times what they offered you!

West
 

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:lol: Yep, West.......THATS their game! Great story , I like to hear about these guitars staying in loving homes.......and being appreciated , valued, and played. THATS what Im talking about!!! :wink: Good stuff! Hey , I like that chair TOO!...a fine guitar stand!!!
 

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and then they quoted me a trade-in value that was heartbreakingly low.

Jeez man, listen to the guy.He only has your best interest at heart. Don't do this to yourself.
 

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acid,

Nice! Congrats on keeping her and getting her back to perfection. It's important to find a repairman who really understands his biz and doesn't BS you. Sounds like you have. A person like that you can consult with on purchases and ultimately use to keep your fleet in tip-top shape.
 

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killdeer43 said:
Acid,

Great story, once again, but I'm still keeping my eye on....the chair!!
Love that chair! :wink:

Joe
the best part is... i have four of them. :D

if my wife ever decides the chairs need to go, i'll make sure to get one to you, somehow. ;)
 

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You made all the right moves in keeping this guitar.

Now you should smear the he!! out of the store that tried to take advantage of you. It really makes me mad when people like that try to use their "superior" knowledge to cheat their customers, whether low-balling on trade in value or hitting them up for unnecessary repair work.

When I think I see such incidences on LTG, I tend to keep my mouth shut for lack of first-hand information. But I think it's a very good idea to get two opinions always.

Best luck.
 

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Somewhere old Smithfield Fair is smiling & nodding in approval at this thread.

I hope you continue to enjoy your GF25 for another 20/+ years, ac1dt3st!
 

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fungusyoung said:
Somewhere old Smithfield Fair is smiling & nodding in approval at this thread.

I hope you continue to enjoy your GF25 for another 20/+ years, ac1dt3st!
thanks, man. and thanks, everyone.

and yes, it's still the weekend of the GF25. was playing her last night in between candy distributions.

i did give the F50R a good run this morning as well, but man... since that adjustment, the intonation on the GF25 is just perfect...
 

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Nigel Wickwire said:
Congratulations, Rich! It's nice to hear a story about one that didn't get away for a change :)

I wish you another 22 years of enjoyment with this fine instrument.

<cue background music: Cinderella's, "Don't know what you got, 'til it's gone">

~nw
thanks, nw! one could also cue the John Lennon variant as well, if one preferred; either works. ;)

and yes, i'm definitely looking forward to the next 20 years. (the guitar is an '87, but i bought her in '89. i'll have to check out the sales receipt to see which month.)

i think perhaps the best case scenario is almost losing something, but not quite, but in the process fully realizing what you had all along. that's win/win. :D one could cue a couple hundred songs or romantic comedies to that point...

anyway, thanks everyone for your support. i truly had a renaissance weekend with the GF25, but i also gave the new F50R a ton of love last night.
 
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