Help me identify this Guild

[LeFinPepere]

Somebody here at LTG will surely know about this one.I'm not into acoustic much, but this one goes for 120 bucks...What is it worth?

 

[GardMan]

Hard to tell the B/S wood from the dark pic...
Could be a D-40 from the early '70s, when they had an inlaid Guild headstock w/o the Chesterfield. Can't judge condition from one pic, but more than $120...

 

[davismanLV]

From that photo I can't even tell if it has a TRC or not....

 

[plaidseason]

Hard to tell the B/S wood from the dark pic...
Could be a D-40 from the early '70s, when they had an inlaid Guild headstock w/o the Chesterfield. Can't judge condition from one pic, but more than $120...

I second all of this. Looks like a D40. But better pictures and a serial number would help.

 

[LeFinPepere]

Ho, thanks for your answers!Pic of the back probably helps...

 

[Guildedagain]

Early 70's truss rod less Guild D18?

 

[LeFinPepere]

Well, anyway, she's gone now!!!Thanks a lot for your answers!

 

[plaidseason]

I thought it was just a bad photo. And even zoomed in, it was like one of those conspiratorial Mars photos where they show the secret government facilities. I could kind of still see a truss rod cover. "I want to believe."

 

[Guildedagain]

A Guildnaught.

 

[Guilderland21]

Valid point! Also Guild used no 17th and 19th fret markers.
Not a Guild at all. Hence the very low price.

It's a moot point now, I guess, but are we sure it isn't an import Guild? It almost looks like a D-140 (which has those fret markers and no TRC) but is missing the Chesterfield.

Edit: Looks even more like a GAD D-140, like the one in the 2013 catalog here, which didn't have the Chesterfield. It also apparently had a satin neck, which explains why the back of the headstock is so much less glossy than the back of the body. No idea if it's in fact genuine (on the one hand, I'd expect to see the GAD label through the soundhole unless it's higher up than I expect; on the other hand, who bothers to counterfeit a GAD?), but if it's a Guild that's my best guess as to the model.

 

[LeFinPepere]

That's the point. "Who bothers to counterfeit a GAD?" and ask a mere 130 Euros, with case? + the ad looked genuine ("selling my daughter's guitar"), no boasting about it being a Guild bla bla bla , didn't even mention it in the title , just said "guitar"....

 

[plaidseason]

It's a moot point now, I guess, but are we sure it isn't an import Guild? It almost looks like a D-140 (which has those fret markers and no TRC) but is missing the Chesterfield.

Edit: Looks even more like a GAD D-140, like the one in the 2013 catalog here, which didn't have the Chesterfield. It also apparently had a satin neck, which explains why the back of the headstock is so much less glossy than the back of the body. No idea if it's in fact genuine (on the one hand, I'd expect to see the GAD label through the soundhole unless it's higher up than I expect; on the other hand, who bothers to counterfeit a GAD?), but if it's a Guild that's my best guess as to the model.

I was wondering the same thing/leaning the same way after the fact. It very well might be a GAD.

 

[fronobulax]

To continue the moot point I too wondered if it was a GAD or similar because nothing looked off to me and there should not be a TRC.

 

[davismanLV]

So maybe a GAD and the label fell out? Do GAD's have serial numbers stamped anywhere?

 

[GGJaguar]

Do GAD's have serial numbers stamped anywhere?

I think there's a number (don't know if it's a s/n) on the neck block. Ralf would know for sure.

 

[SFIV1967]

It's a moot point now, I guess, but are we sure it isn't an import Guild? It almost looks like a D-140 (which has those fret markers and no TRC) but is missing the Chesterfield.

Now you got me! Congratulations, we have a winner!
As the first picture was not really good and the top was so dark it looked like an much older guitar and hence I didn't even consider looking up a GAD catalog...
But you are spot on with your observation, it is indeed a GAD model, a D-140, which was only made in 2013 and 2014, in 2015 the Westerly Collection D-140 was introduced.
Anyway, the exact production date of the guitar would be stamped on the neck block (not the number on the label, which is just a random serial number). The first two of the 10 digits on the neckblock stamp are the year and the second two the month. So if the number starts with 1307 for example it is July 2013. All other 6 digits afterwards are just certain order numbers for the factory.

Compare:



So bottom line: I'm happy to accept that I was wrong here.

Ralf

 

[Guilderland21]

As the first picture was not really good and the top was so dark it looked like an much older guitar and hence I didn't even consider looking up a GAD catalog...

I think the only reason this didn't also throw me off was that the top of my 2015 Westerly Collection D-140 is almost as dark (and has been since I got it in 2020, as far as I can tell, though maybe it's darkened further as I keep it on a stand rather than in the case). Also, despite the changes to the model, the back looks quite similar:

 

[chazmo]

Ralf got "Guilderland21"ed!

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So did I for that matter. I'm not used to seeing GADs with such darkened soundboards, although that could be the picture. Otherwise, I suspect that guitar has seen a lot of sun!

 

[chazmo]

I have to say that I'm glad it's not a fake. It looked too good and I was getting a little worried.

 

[SFIV1967]

I have to say that I'm glad it's not a fake. It looked too good and I was getting a little worried.

Well, I was initially thinking it was one of the many 70's Japanese copies, their quality was very good. Just wasn't able finding one with those 17th and 19th fret fretboard markers. Now it all makes sense and the riddle is solved thanks to Guilderland21.
Ralf