Thank you very much . Seems longer than Cimar but its ok.Comparing the bass tones to all my guitars this one seems to be the louder so it is time for a personalized art design on the headstock.
I'm not aware about California. There were Canyon, Cimar and Cortley.
Definitely not...
I have never seen a Crestwood with Guild headstock or Guild bridge style. Do you have an example picture of one? And the logo would be too long.
Looks close but there are some differences. But models change year to year .I'm not aware about California. There were Canyon, Cimar and Cortley.
It's definitely not a Canyon. Doesn't look like a Cortley either.
I'd say it's a
The 1977 catalog shows a similar but younger model with all of the appointments of the OP's guitar, TRC, dots on fingerboard, tuners:
Ralf
Hey Ralf ! It is the closest scenario to be a crestwood but I cannot find either any story they were making guild copies .Who knows ?I have never seen a Crestwood with Guild headstock or Guild bridge style. Do you have an example picture of one? And the logo would be too long.
Ralf
Usually there's a "cease and desist" letter issued first and often that's enough so that no suit is brought.
Ah, that is a way better picture!
Here you are !Ah, that is a way better picture!
Yes, now I would also agree that it could be "Crestwood", but we would still need to find a picture or catalog of another one. Interesting!
Do you have a picture of the back and the tuners and the neck to body connection by any chance? Just curious.
Ralf
There was exactly one. Gibson sued Ibanez in 1977 over copying their "open-book" headstock design. The lawsuit was settled out of court, and that was that. Ibanez instituted a new headstock design, which they still use today. But the term "lawsuit guitar" has morphed into something that now gets misused 365 days a year, quite often by people wanting to sell a guitar & tack on an upcharge by simply calling it a "lawsuit guitar." Therefore, nowadays the term can be seen being applied to any Japanese-made instrument from the seventies, no matter who the maker was.
See directly above regarding the term "lawsuit guitar." But to answer the question of whether Japanese-made acoustic instruments from the seventies used laminated or solid woods, it goes as follows: The vast majority of acoustics imported from Japan were of all-laminate construction on the top, sides, & back. Takamine, which for my money made the very best copies of Martins & Guilds, had some models with solid tops, denoted by an 'S' after the model number. One day while browsing in a music store, I picked up & played a new Takamine F-362s, which was a copy of the Gallagher used by Doc Watson. It was a very nice instrument indeed (and I should have bought it!). Ibanez also initiated the Artwood line, which had models with either solid tops, or solid woods throughout. Other makers went down the same road, but still, the primary flow of Japanese acoustics involved all-laminate construction.So not knowing , are all lawsuit models laminated regardless of brand copy ? I heard they all were all solid woods .
Crestwood looks like a darn good match for the scribbled off area on the headstock. I'm not familiar with the Crestwood name, but essentially at the time, there were only a limited number of Japanese factories cranking out these Guild, Gibson, and Martin copies. Almost anyone could set themselves up as a distributor and have whatever name they wanted on the headstock. So in fact, this created a significant number of regional logo names. Here in the northwestern portion of the US during the seventies, a local fellow began distributing Japanese imports under the "Lyle" brand name. Seemed like just about every local guitar store around here carried Lyle Japanese-made acoustics. Perhaps someone on LTG is familiar with the Crestwood line, and I'd be curious to know where, globally, they were being sold.Ah, that is a way better picture!
Yes, now I would also agree that it could be "Crestwood", but we would still need to find a picture or catalog of another one. Interesting!
Do you have a picture of the back and the tuners and the neck to body connection by any chance? Just curious.
Ralf
