Is Jazz/Blues really irrelevant in today's world?

[adorshki]

As to the guitar....the only ones that are completely portable, not reliant on power input and can play polyphonic music.

'S funny, that's exactly why I decided to concentrate on acoustic, when I started out wanting to be the next Jeff Beck. :lol:
Anywhere, anytime, baby! 8) :wink:

So do you think Guild/Fender will ever build a 100% comp guitar like a Blackbird? Things that make you go hmmmm.

It's probably inevitable, in spite of the fact that I'll never buy one. :lol:
And I do kind of disagree with Bluesy that crap always dies. The problem is, as he did say, is that it keeps coming back. Like mice, bad mexican food, and stalker ex-girlfriends.
Why? To paraphrase PT Barnum, one of the founding fathers of the music industry in its modern form, "There's a new generation of suckers born every 5 years, and I will survive."
Fortunately, a precious few of them grow up to discover, cherish, and support real art. :wink:

 

[fronobulax]

The problem is, as he did say, is that it keeps coming back.

I will survive.

I will survive.

 

[adorshki]

The problem is, as he did say, is that it keeps coming back.

I will survive.

I will survive.

Dang it. I just knew somebody was gonna go there with that. :lol:

 

[guildman63]

no music ever dies, it just fades away, usually to be reinvented again at some point in time.

I don't share your projection of Gaga (or Bieber, or Britney or Miley etc.. etc... for this matter) in the future. I think their "musical style" will die, as scores of others have before them.

In theory you are right, but don't forget that we now live in an age where, no matter how bad something is, it will exist forever in this cyber-world of ours. Crap from 100 years ago is gone because there were no ways to record it in a functionally pervasive way. While crap from today may fade away, it will always exist in one form or another for someone that doesn't know history to find. It is not likely to regain the level of interest it first had, but nothing out here ever completely goes away anymore. Therefore, never post anything online that you may one day regret, and know your history! :lol:

 

[fronobulax]

Crap from 100 years ago is gone

Slight veer because the music in question is not crap, IMO, but it has always amused me how dance and popular music from 100 years ago and earlier has migrated into the classical canon today. Playford's The Dancing Master is probably as good an example as any. The music collected there still gets played today but it is either in the context of a folklore society or 'reenactment' or by a classically trained ensemble expanding their offerings.

Perhaps in 100 years the finest of today's Jazz and Blues will end up being played in a concert hall more often than a bar.

 

[adorshki]

Crap from 100 years ago is gone

Slight veer because the music in question is not crap, IMO, but it has always amused me how dance and popular music from 100 years ago and earlier has migrated into the classical canon today.

And quite seriously, let's not forget the sources of many immortal "nursery rhymes": "pop music" of the Middle Ages.

Perhaps in 100 years the finest of today's Jazz and Blues will end up being played in a concert hall more often than a bar.

Zappa's an excellent example of the process in action, quoted Stravinsky many times in composition:
http://researchblog.andremount.net/?p=250
And now he himself is being covered by modern jazz musicians. He's finally achieved "respect" and "legitimacy". After death, as usual.
On the other hand, not too sure if respect and legitimacy were ever goals of a guy who just wanted to make the rudest noises on a guitar he possibly could. :wink:

 

[2bornot2bop]

no music ever dies, it just fades away, usually to be reinvented again at some point in time.

Blues and Jazz (as classical) won't, beacuse they are the foundation, the slab on which the house has been built if you will...

Well spoken. Jazz is dead or dying? Tell that to the masses throughout Europe and Japan.

I don't use what some corporate hackey props up as legitimate music
as a barometer for jazz. The young have no idea what real music is for their generation has yet to hear it.

 

[adorshki]

The young have no idea what real music is for their generation has yet to hear it.

Sooner or later some of 'em'll get tired of the bublegum and start lookin' for the brie.
Or the bleus.