My understanding was that no GAD's ever went through a Guild plant, they were warehoused and distributed exclusively by Fender.Marty, I think you're asking a really good question.
I thought Madeira was a brand name owned by Guild, but perhaps I misunderstood or perhaps Guild bought the rights to the name after this point in time.
I think what Bill A. is referring to is not Guild GAD guitars (though that is possible), but rather Epiphone imports that I think New Hartford had responsibility for inspecting. I think this was part of Kaman's responsibility when Fender took them over, but I am not at all certain.
I believe it was a holdover from when Kaman Music owner of Ovation and Hamer brands owned the New Hartford plant, kitniyatran. In any case, the only thing I'm certain of is that it was SOME brand that we all knew that was sending their imports through New Hartford.Why would Fender have Guild inspect Epiphones, which are a Gibson product?
That would have been my understanding as well. FMIC had a warehouse (no longer existing) for that in Southern CA, if memory is correct it was located at 1151 Mildred St # B, Ontario,CA, near the airport there.My understanding was that no GAD's ever went through a Guild plant, they were warehoused and distributed exclusively by Fender.
Arcos I highly doubt. The Ensenada products had nothing to do with NH.As the memory percolates, seem to recall possibly some of the Arcos' did, and the NS models and the American Patriarchs went through NH, at some point at least.
Epiphone had nothing to do with Kaman. Kaman used to own part of Takamine and was the exclusive distributor of Takamine guitars, Bill Kaman used to sit on the Board of Directors of Takamine.I believe it was a holdover from when Kaman Music owner of Ovation and Hamer brands owned the New Hartford plant, kitniyatran. In any case, the only thing I'm certain of is that it was SOME brand that we all knew that was sending their imports through New Hartford.
I'd guess it was a phantasy name Guild came up with for the import line. I don't think they bought rights of an previously existing name.I thought Madeira was a brand name owned by Guild, but perhaps I misunderstood or perhaps Guild bought the rights to the name after this point in time.
That article is really good, Marty. I did NOT know that any Madeiras came from Korea; I thought they were all MIJ. But that does explain the label differences.
Yup, that seems to be supported by the article. If the article is correct, that is.I'd guess it was a phantasy name Guild came up with for the import line. I don't think they bought rights of an previously existing name.
Ralf
Jeez, Ralf, you don't even live there!That would have been my understanding as well. FMIC had a warehouse (no longer existing) for that in Southern CA, if memory is correct it was located at 1151 Mildred St # B, Ontario,CA, near the airport there.
Oh yeah.Arcos I highly doubt. The Ensenada products had nothing to do with NH.
NS models I doubt as well, I'd say they also went through the FMIC Ontario warehouse.
And American Patriarch was made in NH!
Ralf
He joined up here few years back.
But I've been to that area quite a few times in the past. So I know my way around there.Jeez, Ralf, you don't even live there!
If you only write one page per model that would be a much much bigger book! (Including electrics, classicals, banjos, mandolines,...) And you would have to write about the different factories in all the different countries....I think I'll write the definitive book on Madeira.
All six pages.