My acoustic 6 string.

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Once again, I have another NA Guild. I bought it from Vermont Piano and Organ in Castelton VT. around 1978 to 1982 from Cesil Ducharme (Spelling), who owned the place. The only modification to the guitar was that I had him install a Dean Markley insider pickup. I have been letting my Granddaughter play it for several months. She just brought it back this morning and I was going to restring it and give it a cleaning. I believe it is a D46 from 1981 though he did order it for me.

Once I get her restrung and cleaned up I will post more photos. Here is the serial# DL100646 Note the stamp on the headstock "Made in USA"
 

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Beautiful guitar! Is that a D-46?

Edit: Sorry, I didn't read your post carefully. Very cool model to own.
 
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Welcome to LTG! I love the D46, if yours is one, yea let’s see the back, is it all ash or with a rosewood strip?
 

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That's a fine-looking guitar!

I typically use a cloth lightly dampened with naptha for cleaning a dirty guitar. You can buy it at hardware or paint-supply stores. To the best of my knowledge, it is considered to be safe for all guitar finishes.
 

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That's a fine-looking guitar!

I typically use a cloth lightly dampened with naptha for cleaning a dirty guitar. You can buy it at hardware or paint-supply stores. To the best of my knowledge, it is considered to be safe for all guitar finishes.
Thanks. I used to have some naptha in the shop, but I think I used it on some brass I had. I had read that it was safe for guitars if used sparingly but have never tried it.
 

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The first Guild I played and then bought was a D46, still one of my favorites.
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I see yours has the label inside. I don't believe mine ever had one. It also looks like the edging on the back is black. I guess they made quite an assortment of them?
 

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Glad it found it's way back to you. A unique and great sounding guitar.
Actually, it has never been any farther from me than my granddaughter's house about 300 feet away. ;) I keep a close eye on it.
 

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It looks like it is all ash with a thin decal down the center. I am trying to decide what best to use to clean the last 6 years of grime with.
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Hey, C. W.,

Beautiful D-46! Looks super well cared for!

That's solid ash, BTW, C. W. No rosewood.

That center strip is not a decal. It's marquetry that's used to highlight the two sides of a two-piece back. Just so you know, Guild built some of these (not sure what the breakdown is) as a 3-piece back with a wide center piece of rosewood flanked by two pieces of ash.

Again, beautiful!
 

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Hey, C. W.,

Beautiful D-46! Looks super well cared for!

That's solid ash, BTW, C. W. No rosewood.

That center strip is not a decal. It's marquetry that's used to highlight the two sides of a two-piece back. Just so you know, Guild built some of these (not sure what the breakdown is) as a 3-piece back with a wide center piece of rosewood flanked by two pieces of ash.

Again, beautiful!
I am getting itchy to give it a good cleaning and fresh strings. Working on keeping up with the storm today, looks like I will have time tomorrow. I will have to look up the insider pickup again to see what the best way to clean the jack is.

It does have its share of battle wounds, although it has always been kept in the original case when not in use.
 

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I am getting itchy to give it a good cleaning and fresh strings. Working on keeping up with the storm today, looks like I will have time tomorrow. I will have to look up the insider pickup again to see what the best way to clean the jack is.

It does have its share of battle wounds, although it has always been kept in the original case when not in use.
I know that feeling, C. W.. This is what I've been up to today with a Mt. Vernon Bach C trumpet that used to belong to the BSO's trumpet section. This trumpet was really filthy and I had a good morning giving it a bath.

IMG_0917 is a "before" photo. IMG_0921 shows all the body and slides clean, and 922 shows the clean valves. Most of the silver is worn off, so my silver polishing didn't really do much. But, in the world of brass instruments, clean is good.
 

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@chazmo Sounds like you have quite an extensive collection of instruments ;) I am wondering, (In this particular case), about the claims that "Naptha" would be the right thing to use on this era Guild? I found something "new to me" on the back of the neck that seems to have eaten the finish. It feels sort of "Gummy" and slightly sticky, like it wants to peel off the original finish.
I have tried to clean it with a damp microfiber cloth, dampened with some water, but that doesn't touch it. Do you know what finish might have been on this guitar, so I know what to avoid, Or where I can find a guide for doing so?
Perhaps I should start a thread, since I can't find the right keyword structures anymore with the modern search engines. LOL.

I will get a photo when I have a chance, and thanks!
 

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Brass players have a lot of gear, C. W. I'm primarily a trumpet player, but my "collections" (including my guitars) pale in comparison to many of the guys on this site. :)

I don't think naphtha will help you with the sticky finish issue. That happens when sweat or other gunk destabilizes the nitrocellulose lacquer on your neck. You're certainly not the first to talk about this. We have some builders and repair folks on the site who might be able to help you. I'd also recomment starting a thread in the tech shop forum... Anyway,...

@Christopher Cozad @AcornHouse @hansmoust do you guys have suggestions for C. W. here?
 

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For general cleaning:

On a poly finish, a mild soap such as a few drops of Dr. Bronner’s Pure Castille soap in water on a rag wrung dry will remove most offending oils (such as from your arm, cheek, chin, hands, etc.).

The same is true for a relatively young NCL (lacquer) finish. But water is not a friend of wooden instruments, so if finish cracks exist, let alone gaping cracks in binding or open wounds exposing raw wood, then soap and water is *not* advisable. Your only choice is Naptha.

Naptha is a relatively safe all around cleaner, but it is *not* a good choice for maintaining fretboards (Naptha , a mild solvent, has a “drying” effect on wood over time). Fretboards are rarely, if ever finished. They are raw wood that (typically) have been oiled. A very light application of mineral oil works as both a cleaner and a prophylactic on most fretboards.

Do not use alcohol in any form, as it may/will cloud your judgement; er, finish.

With any liquid, be cautious of wiping smudge, grime, grease, lipstick, body slough off, etc. down into cracks and crevices. You won’t likely ever be able to remove stuff once you have smeared it in to those places.

For “sticky” finish:

Controversial topic. I am deeply aware of two opposing views regarding sticky finishes: 1.) They cannot be fixed, and must be replaced. 2.) They *may* be able to be fixed if they are localized (eg, back of the neck between the 1st and 3rd frets ONLY). How to do it is a secret. :cool:

Just kidding. It is not a secret, but it can be risky, and you end up needing aeither a spot refinish or a complete refinish.

Word of advice: Test your mild cleaner of choice on as inconspicuous an area as possible before wiping it all over your instrument, just to be safe.

(Second) Word of advice: Go slow and watch for issues.
 

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@Christopher Cozad Thank you for your words of caution, some very solid advice here. I had not noticed this spot on the neck until it returned from my granddaughters. It may well have been there for some time unnoticed because it is near the top of the neck, near where the neck rests in the case. It appears to be a thumbprint size spot, perhaps from someone putting it in the case with something on their hands?

I do have a small crack in the front I have been very careful about. It was caused by a friend who transported it in the trunk of his car on a really cold night. That has been there for most of the guitars life, since the mid to late 80s. It has not gotten any worse, and I have allowed it to be part of its history.

I used an almost dry microfiber cloth with plain water to get the worst of the gunk off the body, and it is amazing how much better it looks. I will take your advice on the fretboard and use mineral oil. I know in the past someone borrowed it, and it came back smelling like lemon pledge. Amazingly, it didn't appear to bother the finish once I wiped it down with a soft dry cloth.

Thanks so much for sharing your wisdom.
 
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