need help with oddball guild. at least rare i believe. F50

[ramblinman]

It is being advertised as an F50-MNT. I have not heard of one of these. Any help would be appreciated. The following in quotes is the description. Thanks for any help or advice.

" with maple back and sides with a dark mahogany finish (hence the "M" in the model designation) and a natural top ("NT"), now turned a deep golden color.

 

[West R Lee]

Sounds as if the seller may have nailed the description to me. Mahogany (stain) with a natural top.

West

 

[hansmoust]

It is being advertised as an F50-MNT. I have not heard of one of these. Any help would be appreciated. The following in quotes is the description. Thanks for any help or advice.

" with maple back and sides with a dark mahogany finish (hence the "M" in the model designation) and a natural top ("NT"), now turned a deep golden color.

Hello ramblinman,

Welcome! The 'MNT' suffix for 'mahogany stained' back & sides and 'natural top' would be unusual on an F-50, because the regular designation for a guitar with that finish would be F-50NT. If the back & sides were not stained, the model designation would be F-50 Bld.

Now they did use the 'MNT' suffix on the D-44M ( the Maple version of the D-44) during the mid-'70s, if it had mahogany stained back & sides and a natural top. The model designation would be 'D-44 MNT' but the 'M' would be the designation for the maple back & sides, not for the 'mahogany stain'. The 'blonde' finished version would be called the 'D-44M Bld".

I realize this system can be a little confusing and so I'm not surprised that someone in the factory would be confused as well and used the 'MNT' designation on an F-50 by accident.

Can you tell me if the F-50MNT you're looking at is from the mid-'70s or from around that general period?

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[ramblinman]

thanks for info. It is a 1981. I am waiting on complete pictures of guitar. i was wondering if this person perhaps had an r model. I really want a tobacco burst f50 but no such look. been looking for months.

 

[chazmo]

Well, it sounds likely to be some kind of sunburst finish, but I don't really know. I don't know if Guild did any flat, dark-stained maple. They certainly did some colors though, especially on the electrics... A picture would clear it up. Seller is right about the "NT" part of the alphabet soup as referring to the top designation (as natural, and not a 'burst).

In this case, "M" stands for mystery.

 

[ramblinman]

lol exactly. mysterious mystery. here is a link to it. waiting on better pics. price is another issue just wanting to identify it. i was guessing they might have a rosewood model.

http://www.gbase.com/gear/guild-f-50mnt-1981

 

[hansmoust]

thanks for info. It is a 1981.

Hello again,

During the '70s the model designation for a maple F-50 with a 'Natural Top' and 'mahogany shaded back & sides' would be F-50NT.

During the '80 they would use the F-50 M designation for that same guitar with a 'Natural Top' and 'mahogany shaded back & sides'.

It looks like the person who wrote up the label wasn't really sure what was expected, so he wrote down both M and NT. Within the factory it meant the same thing but during different periods.
Since it's a guitar from 1981 that would explain it all. Well ......... more or less!

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[ramblinman]

thanks for the info. so do you think there were very many of these guitars with the stained maple

 

[hansmoust]

so do you think there were very many of these guitars with the stained maple

Hello ramblinman,

Guild never kept records re. the amount of instruments that were made in a particular finish, but when I look at my own personal Guild database I can tell you that quite a few F-50s were made with the tinted finish on the back & sides but the 'Blonde' finish was the most popular. I do not have all that much entries for F-50s produced during the '80s. The production and sales of F-50s dropped significantly during that particular period and consequently it's hard for me to say anything definitive about the finish used on those.

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl

 

[ramblinman]

hans. thanks for all your input. i really appreciate it. i really want a westerly sunburst but have been looking for over a month and no luck. blond is second choice for me. Thanks again. I hope to be back in guild family soon.