New Member Restoring a 1982 S-250

mroddjob

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I am a new member to this forum and I'm here to introduce myself and tell you about the Guild S-250 (Serial #AB100218) I'm restoring.
I've owned this Guild for about 15 years, but it's been sitting in a gig bag for most of the time I've had it.
I acquired it from a friend who gave it to me after he rescued it from his cousin.

When my friend gave it to me it was in a sad but salvageable state.
He decided to give it to me because I built a couple of guitars in high school and he figured I'd save it.
His cousin stripped the body using sandpaper and then took a wood burning iron (a soldering iron) to the headstock and back of the guitar and burnt various words and amateurish designs into the body.
It also had 2 additional holes drilled in the body for mini toggle switches.

I was barely able to make out the serial number from his "craftwork", but after doing a pencil rubbing on tracing paper I was able to make it out and I wrote to Guild to ask them what model I had.
They sent me a fax, (which I still have from 1996) with a copy of the 1982 catalog page and a letter telling me it was an S-250.
I still remember being impressed with the thoroughness of their response.

When I received the guitar it was complete except for the pickups, mounting rings, headstock cover, control knobs, upper button strap and the binding on the body.
I bought the materials to refinish it but only got as far as gluing the new binding on.
As a fan of Les Paul Jrs, my plan was to refinish it in TV Yellow with black binding.
The rebinding came out great, but then I started my own business and never had the time or motivation to finish it up.

I'm back at it now and my plans are to restore it to original except for the color and pickups.
As much as I love the TV yellow LP Jr, I've decided to paint it white instead and use humbucker sized P-90 single coil pickups from BG pickups.
This way it's still an All American made guitar and from everything I've read, the combination of the mahogany body and P90s should sound great.

I've located most of the missing parts, including a Guild overlay for the headstock.
And I sent an email to Hans for the truss rod cover and upper button strap which his web site says are still available.
I've got my fingers crossed because then I'll have everything I need.
Well except for an original hardcase, so if anyone knows where I can find one...

I've attached the pics of it's current state.
I should have taken photos of the before state with all of the wood burns in the body, but this way I won't make you cry.
So far I've scraped the binding down flush with the wood surface.
My next step is to fill in the holes where the mini toggles were, but I'm waiting for a 1/4" mahogany dowel to arrive, so I can make a proper repair.
I've got grain filler, sealer and lacquer ready to refinish it, but the pickups being hand wound won't be here for 2 months so I can take my time.

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Welcome to LTG, mroddjob. We're happy to count you among our number. And images on the first post, very impressive.

That is quite a project, you've started. We really dig this type of thing around here. Kudos on you for your efforts to restore a fine guitar.

And keep those pictures coming, as you progress!

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Hi, welcome, and thanks for a nice story and pictures!

I am a big fan of the S-250, and it's great to see one being rescued like this. Looking forward to seeing it finished.

beinhard
 

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Hello mroddjob:

Very cool indeed! Keep those pics coming so we can follow along as you bring her back to life. 8)


And welcome to LTG... :D
 

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Thanks for the warm welcome.
I'll keep you guys updated with pictures as I get further along.
 

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Qvart said:
mroddjob said:
except for an original hardcase, so if anyone knows where I can find one...

This case has been on Craigslist for a long time:

http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/msg/1963474667.html

Don't know if it's the right one for your guitar but it might be from around that time.

And...PRICED TO MOVE!!! :lol: That still cracks me up. It's been up there for the same price how long now? :roll:
 

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Hammer said:
And...PRICED TO MOVE!!! :lol: That still cracks me up. It's been up there for the same price how long now? :roll:

Haha - yeah, priced to move you on to the next website. :lol:
 

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Welcome to the board, mroddjob. That's a lot of cool prep you've already done on that guitar. Very impressive. It's going to come out really nice.

If it were my baby I'd just give that body and neck a nice transparent satin finish. It's a great looking guitar already. But that's just me.

Fantastic that you've rescued it from its dismal, lonesome fate. Keep us posted on your progress!!
 

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To Hammer: Thanks for the heads up on that case.
I don't think it's the correct case, but the price is right and if my guitar fits that's good enough for me.
I just want better protection than a gig bag and something that says Guild on it.

To Maxer:
I hear you on just leaving it natural.
As I started sanding the damage out I really liked the natural woodgrain, but I love white guitars.
And when I saw that the BG Pure 90s are available with a white cover I was sold.

On a side note, I just moved to Atlanta 2 months ago and my friend who gave me this guitar 15 years ago has lived here for the last 10 years.
He moved to Athens GA 20 years ago to pursue his dreams of rock & roll stardom, but we've been tight since we were 14 growing up in NJ.
Anyway, in my quest to restore the S-250, I needed to see another Guild from the Westerly RI days.
The point of all this background is that my friend has owned a lot of gear over the years, but as his touring days are behind him, he has only kept one guitar, a S-300.
He is the only person I know that even owns a guitar in Atlanta, because I hardly know anybody yet.

So when my guitar is completed I'll post a pic of his and mine together.
I just hope he doesn't ask for it back after all these years.
Also, his S-300 has a bolt on maple neck?
But from what I've read S-300s all have set necks?
 

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mroddjob said:
Also, his S-300 has a bolt on maple neck?
But from what I've read S-300s all have set necks?

Yep. Don't think they ever made one with a bolt-on neck. Although I seem to remember some discussion around here once of a Franken-Guild someone came across with a bolt-on. Guess we'll have to wait for your pics.

Good luck with your project!
 

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In the last year or twoIi had seen a bolt-on neck S300 on ebay. I mentioned it on this forum and no one was aware of a bolt on. Our resident Guild expert, Hans Moust, also was not aware of a bolt on model. I would be great if your friend could send you a picture for all of us to see.

Also, I wasn't aware that a S250 had body binding a only 3 control (2 vol + 1 tone). I thought S275's had that style.

Tnx,

Mike
 

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mroddjob said:
The point of all this background is that my friend has owned a lot of gear over the years, but as his touring days are behind him, he has only kept one guitar, a S-300. Also, his S-300 has a bolt on maple neck? But from what I've read S-300s all have set necks?

matsickma said:
In the last year or twoIi had seen a bolt-on neck S300 on ebay. I mentioned it on this forum and no one was aware of a bolt on.

Hello mroddjob,

Welcome! I see you made it!
Yes, we all would love to see a photo of your friend's bolt-on S-300. Make sure that you will get the serial number information as well, since it might play a role in establishing when exactly that particular guitar was made.

Also, I wasn't aware that a S250 had body binding a only 3 control (2 vol + 1 tone). I thought S275's had that style.

Hello Mike,

The change to that style took place during 1982.

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
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Mike,
Here's a link to the 1982 Guild Catalog showing the S-250 configuration:
http://www.vintageguitars.org.uk/guild82p10.php
From what I understand the S-250 was offered with 4 controls in 1981.
For 1982-83 it was 3.

Hans,
I just got back from having brunch with my friend and told him that his guitar is an oddity.
He's curious to learn what he has and is going to let me take pics of it later this week to post here.
I know that it has been in his family a long time.
I don't think from new, but it was his brother's guitar from at least the mid 80s.
He says it was made in 1975, at least that's what he's been told.
The only thing that isn't original as far as he knows are the pickups.
The serial number is 148672.
 

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mroddjob said:
From what I understand the S-250 was offered with 4 controls in 1981.

That is correct. A look at the three- and four-knob S-250s and a three-knob S-275.

Beinhard's '81 four-knob S-250
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Grot's three-knob '82 S-250:
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Athree-knob '82 S-275 that's owned by a friend of mine:
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hansmoust said:
Thunderface said:
An three-knob '82 S-250 that's owned by a friend of mine:
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You mean a three-knob S-275! I understand ........ the truss rod cover is upside-down!

Sincerely,

Hans Moust
http://www.guitarsgalore.nl

Doh! Thanks Hans. I fixed the typo but couldn't do anything with the TRC in the photo. :lol:

And I overlooked the fact that I never extended a hearty welcome to mroddjob nor gave him kudos for restoring the S-250. Way to go!
 
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