NGD 1977 Starfire 6

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I got this home yesterday so this is an early impression before any deep cleaning and taking apart. I was able to see it in person and we came to a fair price given condition and such. Overall, it is in very good condition. The black, of course, shows every mark and the gold has wear. There are a few paint checks but nothing major and some scratches on the back but not through the paint. It has been played so this is not a case queen. I have been looking for a black one and I am happy the listing was posted here on LTG (thanks @Harp Tail)! No major issues other than somebody had installed an output jack plate. I am assuming damage to the original output mounting hole but I have not had the plate off yet. They did a good job and if you did not know you would think it was original and this helped the bargaining on price.

The weight is what you would expect of a late 1970’s Starfire. About 9.5 pounds. It needed a setup. I was getting a couple string buzzes that I traced to the strings vibrating on the back of the bridge between the saddles and harp tail. This has the first version of this bridge which does not have the half moon cutouts on the back for more string clearance. The action was high and the intonation was way off. I also found a piece of cardboard under The high E saddle. I am assuming to raise the saddle and give more clearance between the string and the back of the bridge to prevent a buzz? No idea. I lowered the action and set the intonation (all of the saddles were way too far forward) and removed the cardboard of course. The strings now have good clearance on the back of the bridge so all good and no buzzing!

Unplugged it has a really good punchy sound. Plugged in it sounds great. I have not even replaced the strings yet but it still sounds great. These set of HB-1 pickups sound a little hotter than my others but I have not measured resistance yet. Frets are in great shape and no buzzing anywhere up the neck with low action. Somebody had also replaced the nut and it was cut good and did not need adjustments. Everything works as expected and no surprises! Here are some photos of the guitar before a deep clean.

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Sounds like a you got a super deal for an uncommon SF VI! The hefty weight is not a surprise and I'm sure it adds to the sustain. ;) Have fun and enjoy your new guit!
 

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I don't like black guitars, but that's beautiful anyway. Great score Brad, you're on a tear!
 

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That’s a beauty! Congrats!

I’m surprised they would put a solid color on a VI. I wonder if it was a special order.
 

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Nice Brad! A rock and roll machine. Is that a master volume on the upper bout?
 

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I’m surprised they would put a solid color on a VI. I wonder if it was a special order.
I was surprised too. I have seen some Ebony Starfire VIs as you can see the flame through the finish but not a solid black. The catalogs and price list on your site also never show black as a “standard” finish. However, I have seen one other solid black Starfire VI but it had the Guildsby.
 

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My favorite year, and I have a black SF6 just like this one. Perhaps they did a short run of them?
Does yours have a Guildsby? The only other black one i have seen was also a 1977. I wonder if it was yours? I would love to see some photos!
 

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I love black guitars and I love yours! Congratulations, that's a beauty!
 

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Does yours have a Guildsby? The only other black one i have seen was also a 1977. I wonder if it was yours? I would love to see some photos!
Nope, mine is pretty much EXACTLY like this one ... the carved (etched) gold harp tailpiece is original as far as I can tell. that suits me just fine - I never cared much for tremolos.

EDIT - YIKES - my memory is not what it used to be - turns out my '77 SFVI has a gold guildsby after all - serial number 157786 . But I swear someone has another SFVI with a harp. Maybe our old forum buddy "Treem" had one back in the day?
 
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So similar that for a minute I thought maybe I sold mine and forgot about selling it (it happens! haha)

EDIT - YIKES - my memory is not what it used to be - turns out my '77 SFVI has a gold guildsby after all - serial number 157786 . But I swear someone has another SFVI with a harp. Maybe our old forum buddy "Treem" had one back in the day?
 
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Here's the old listing for mine ... can't believe it's been 8 years o_O

 

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Nope, mine is pretty much EXACTLY like this one ... the carved (etched) gold harp tailpiece is original as far as I can tell. that suits me just fine - I never cared much for tremolos.

EDIT - YIKES - my memory is not what it used to be - turns out my '77 SFVI has a gold guildsby after all - serial number 157786 . But I swear someone has another SFVI with a harp. Maybe our old forum buddy "Treem" had one back in the day?

I have a ‘70s SF VI with a harp. Let me find a pic…
 
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According to my notes it's a '76:

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My buddy from high school (who got me into Guilds) played it once while visiting and has been harassing me to sell it to him ever since. :)


Note the catalog which shows a SF VI with a harp:

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Nope, mine is pretty much EXACTLY like this one ... the carved (etched) gold harp tailpiece is original as far as I can tell. that suits me just fine - I never cared much for tremolos.

EDIT - YIKES - my memory is not what it used to be - turns out my '77 SFVI has a gold guildsby after all - serial number 157786 . But I swear someone has another SFVI with a harp. Maybe our old forum buddy "Treem" had one back in the day?
Welcome back, LA. It's been a long time! Good to see you post. Treem is around occasionally.
 

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Gorgeous guitar, Brad. You got really lucky that it just needed basic set up to be playing perfectly. I love black guitars, and yours is in the sweet spot of years.

Good to see you posting LA!
 
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