NGD - An F-30 at last!

Sam Powrie

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I've been searching for a F-30 for years & have just managed to find & buy one locally here in Australia for a very reasonable price. It arrived this morning after a 1,400km journey across the country. I believe it was an estate sale & was listed as being in very good, original condition with case - which fortunately it is! In fact I'd call it 'excellent'! Just a few small marks here & there but nothing that is really noticeable. The neck is dead-straight with a fantastic all-round action & it even has some sort of battery-powered pickup inside. I'm a very happy camper!

And did I say that it 'rings like a bell' (to quote a well known guitar hero)? No? Well it does - like a beautiful bell on all stings at at all positions. Just amazing! I believe it's a 1975 guitar [edit: 1977!] - Honduras mahogany & a very fine & even spruce top. Neck joint, bridge & fret board appear untouched. The original 3-on a plate tuners have been replaced by unbranded & obviously quite old Kluson-style nickel machines which seem to work fine.

This is the full-depth 'Paul Simon' version I've always wanted so it has a proper bass register - deep, clear & powerful, almost like a dreadnaught. And very balanced across all strings & positions with a fantastic mid-range & clear & sweet trebles.

The seller was unable to ship the guitar to me directly so I asked him to take it in to Mall Music, an excellent north-shore music store in Sydney, to whom I'm very grateful - they inspected & expertly serviced the instrument for me (perfect set-up) & shipped it across the country for a very reasonable fee. My only small doubt lies with the 11-52 strings they installed. Having owned & played many 00/000 sized guitars I now consider light gauge strings rather critically - I feel that they don't always bring out the full potential of smaller instruments. My 00-03 Larrivee for instance, sounds 'weak' at the treble end with ordinary lights, but with the D'Addario True Mediums (medium gauge 6, 2 & 1 strings) it really comes alive & sings! I reckon the same might apply to this Guild so I'll be giving heavier first & second strings a go at least! Because I'm primarily a finger style player, I reckon the arrival of this new baby will see my old D-35 going to a new home soon (along with a number of other fine guitars).

So there we have it - a dream fulfilled! I'd be very interested in comments from other F-30 owners, particularly with regard to experiments with strings & string gauges. Thanks for reading!

Sam.
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Congrats on finding a wonderful guitar, Sam! The mini-jumbo F-30 has been one of my favorite models since the ‘70s. Back then I bought one new, just like yours - but I was young, foolish, & switching guitars a lot, so at some point It got traded away. Currently, I have a mini-jumbo ’73 F-30R, the first year in which a F-30 production-line model was offered in rosewood.

Now for an important point of correction: Paul Simon’s guitar was custom made for him in the ‘60s with a rosewood body, but it was not a mini-jumbo. Rather, it had the earlier 000 shaped F-30 body, similar to the mahogany bodied F-30 in production at that time.

As mentioned, I've long been a fan of the mini-jumbo F-30 body. Others prefer the 000 shaped F-30, but it's all just a matter of what works best for you. Glad you’re long guitar quest has been rewarded with such a fine example of one of the best guitars out there - Enjoy!
 
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Congrats on finding a wonderful guitar, Sam! The mini-jumbo F-30 has been one of my favorite models since the ‘70s. Back then I bought one new, just like yours - but I was young, foolish, & switching guitars a lot, so at some point It got traded away. Currently, I have a mini-jumbo ’73 F-30R, the first year in which a F-30 production-line model was offered in rosewood.

Now for an important point of correction: Paul Simon’s guitar was custom made for him in the ‘60s with a rosewood body, but it was not a mini-jumbo. Rather, it had the earlier 000 shaped F-30 body, similar to the mahogany bodied F-30 in production at that time.

As mentioned, I’ve long been a fan of the mini-jumbo F-30 body. Others prefer the 000 shaped F-30, but it‘s all just a matter of what works best for you. Glad you’re long guitar quest has been rewarded with such a fine example of one of the best guitars out there - Enjoy!
Thanks Bobouz. So can I ask, was Paul Simon's instrument built with a full depth body like mine? Or was it shallower like a standard '000'? I've always associated that great 'thump' he got on S&G's early records with the full depth instrument...
 

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Thanks Bobouz. So can I ask, was Paul Simon's instrument built with a full depth body like mine? Or was it shallower like a standard '000'? I've always associated that great 'thump' he got on S&G's early records with the full depth instrument...
Hmm, I'm really not sure about the depth of his instrument. Others here might know something about this. One would think that the unique rosewood body on his guitar contributed significantly to the instrument's tonal character.
 

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Hmm, I'm really not sure about the depth of his instrument
Congrats on that awesome new guitar. I say keep your D35 around though!!!! I love my D35.

I'm pretty sure the Paul Simon F30 was shallower than the mini-jumbo F30. Interestingly Paul Simon still has one. Below is a link to a recent interview with him. About 30 seconds in he shows/demos it.

 

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Congrats on that awesome new guitar. I say keep your D35 around though!!!! I love my D35.

I'm pretty sure the Paul Simon F30 was shallower than the mini-jumbo F30. Interestingly Paul Simon still has one. Below is a link to a recent interview with him. About 30 seconds in he shows/demos it.


it's kind of like mine
 

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Great score Sam, welcome to the F30 club! She is a beauty. I started with lights, went to mediums but my fingers were not happy, then tried the D’addario hybrid/bluegrass medium bottom light tops. Those worked pretty well especially when tuning down. Now I’m back to mostly lights or hybrids.
 

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I've pretty much been using the D'Addario EJ16 strings for the past 20 plus years (?) on my mini jumbo F30r. For a while before that, I used some nickel wound Gibson strings the had a wound 3rd. Seemed smooth and not as twangy. Plus, I was using a Lawrence soundhole pickup on occasion. Gibson quit making/selling them so I went back to using 80/20 or PB strings. Just so used to the way they sound.

My best friend just gave me a Martin D Jr, which came with their Retro strings, Monel (nickel-copper alloy) lights (12-53). Only had it a week, but I may try those on my Guild.
 
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Ain’t that the truth. I much more prefer the look of the jumbo/F shape bodied guitar to that of a dread.
 
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