NGD - Detonator II

[GAD]

Thanks Default. I think the drive is an old EIDE type. I will pick up on of those interface units and get the pictures. I'm wondering if I posted pictures that included the Detonator I'm referring to on the "old" LTG site?

How old? Everything from about 2008 or so [Edit - 2005] should be here.

 

[matsickma]

Hey GAD,
My memory is a bit vague on this item but I may be able to research some old printouts from the original site. It had a different look from this site. I'm thinking it going back to pre 2000 time period. I'm sure some of the LTG gang may remember.

At one time all the original posts from the old site were archived and accessable. I think I bought and sold about 50+ guitars in the 90's and only kept a small number. I should be able to track down the guitar I am referencing. The 80's Guilds were readily available back then at a decent price so I didn't think much about holding on to them. Today it's a different story.

 

[SFIV1967]

My memory is a bit vague on this item but I may be able to research some old printouts from the original site. It had a different look from this site. I'm thinking it going back to pre 2000 time period. I'm sure some of the LTG gang may remember.

The old forum was up for 3 years from 2002 to 2005. Don's (dklsplace) first post on the new LTG was on June10, 2005. Searching on the wayback machine without knowing the old URL is impossible. Don might still have a backup but I think pictures were also not hosted on the forum site itself. So any pictures you posted had to be linked and so it's more a question finding them on the picture hosting site that you used between 2002 and 2005. So I found in older posts that you used imgur.com.
And your account still exists there as I found this old picture:



But best bet might be trying to access that old drive using an EIDE adapter (if the interface is EIDE).

Ralf

 

[GGJaguar]

searching on the wayback machine without knowing the old URL is impossible

The URL for the original "Guild Pages" site was guildpages.aimoo.com.

 

[SFIV1967]

The URL for the original "Guild Pages" site was guildpages.aimoo.com.

I had forgotten the name...I wasn't sure what to search for and now I also found the older threads about it.

But I can't find M. there...Maybe he used a different handle. And no Detonator discussion either.

Spotted GG there:


First version 2002:


Last version 2005:



And afterwards the new LTG in 2005 looked like this initially:



Ralf

 

[GGJaguar]

And afterwards the new LTG in 2005 looked like this initially:

It's still a little weird to me that I didn't sign up right away when the new site was launched, but I know I was deep in G&L research at the time. I'm guessing that's why I remained a lurker on LTG until signing up again in 2011. I'm great at procrastinating.

 

[matsickma]

Ahh...yes that was the original LTG webpage look. matsickma was my identifier back then also. Interesting that I thought the site was up before 2000. I still have access to that picture of the 3 Detonators. The one I referenced was owned before I purchased the blue on and that black one. The ivory colored one has been in around for a long time. It was essentially purchased NOS from a music store that closed.
I'm gonna purchase one of the EIDE HD to USB units and access all the old pictures.
Thanks to all for the research!
M

 

[fronobulax]

Ahh...yes that was the original LTG webpage look. matsickma was my identifier back then also. Interesting that I thought the site was up before 2000. I still have access to that picture of the 3 Detonators. The one I referenced was owned before I purchased the blue on and that black one. The ivory colored one has been in around for a long time. It was essentially purchased NOS from a music store that closed.
I'm gonna purchase one of the EIDE HD to USB units and access all the old pictures.
Thanks to all for the research!
M

This is why we tolerate veers.

 

[GGJaguar]

This is why we tolerate veers.

Tolerate?! You secretly enjoy them.

 

[tonepoet]

I have in a list JH100580 as the last 1988 serial number. Not sure if and how many more were made in 1989.
Ralf

Hi Ralf,
I also see S/Ns in 1990 through JH100605. So, I guess they may have made 25 more after 1988.

 

[SFIV1967]

Hi Ralf,
I also see S/Ns in 1990 through JH100605. So, I guess they may have made 25 more after 1988.

Ah! I didn't even look into 1990. But that sounds low for 89 and 90. But the list is wrong anyway as it shows the 87/88 serials as 84/85. We still need to wait for Hans' Volume II of the book. And maybe that 605 number belongs to 1989. I could not find pictures of a Detonator with numbers above 554 in a quick search. That red 554 looks like a Detonator II as well. Gruhn wrote in his book the Detonator was available only 87/88 and the Detonator II 1988.

Ralf

 

[GAD]

Mine is #525 and is 1988 per Hans.

 

[GAD]

The original Floyd Rose was a bit of a mess. One of the fine tuners was non original and there were various mis-matched saddles hiding under a generous application of dust.



I started to order replacement parts to fix it up and then remembered that I had a brand new German Floyd Rose
The new nut in a bin somewhere, so I dug it out and now this vintage shredder beauty has a bridge befitting its magnificence.



The locking nut was also trash. It looked like it was pot metal and all of the unwound strings had made groves into it so that the strings went “ping” when bending. It was also weirdly low and had been shimmed but even with the shim the worn nut made all the strings buzz. Luckily I had one of those, too and it dropped right in.



The new nut is for an 1 11/16” neck and is *just* a little too wide but I see no exact matches on the FR site. I’ll know how well it works when I string it up but I’m waiting for a brass block before I do that.

I haven’t decided about the posts yet. They stick out with rust on them so that might drive me crazy but I’d have to order new ones and I think the threaded part might be a different diameter than the “real” Floyd Rose part. I might be able to clean them up back to black. We’ll see.

I don’t hate Kahlers like I used to, but I can’t help thinking that if Guild had embraced the Floyd earlier in the ‘80s they would have sold a lot more guitars. This is a fabulous guitar and as a shredder it’s WAY better than the regular Detonator - and that guitar is no slouch. The original Detonator just suffered trying to be a shredder with an inadequate bridge for shredding.

 

[GGJaguar]

I'm amazed you have a stash of shredder parts (I have none). Clearly, you are a shredder at heart. Which begs the question, why do you have an Artist Award and X-700?

 

[tonepoet]

GAD, glad you are enjoying the guitar. Part of the fun of used guitars is bringing it back to spec or improving what the last owner had done. Enjoy !!!

 

[GAD]

I'm amazed you have a stash of shredder parts (I have none). Clearly, you are a shredder at heart. Which begs the question, why do you have an Artist Award and X-700?

To remind me that I’m not worthy of them.

 

[The Guilds of Grot]

But, but, but, now it's not original!

 

[awagner]

But, but, but, now it's not original!

As long as the original parts are kept in the case pocket, it is fine.

 

[Cougar]

That is, indeed, an awesome blue! Major congrats!

 

[GAD]

But, but, but, now it's not original!

And you KNOW I struggled with this.