NGD: F-212XL Standard

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I recently got this F-212XL Standard from a fellow LTGer. I had a hard time tracking down info for this model and its sibling, the cutaway version F-212XLCE Standard. It could be that very few were made or people love them and hang on to them or both (probably both). Guild said this about the Standard series upon its introduction in November 2010:

Guild Standard series guitars represent the essence of the Guild acoustic legacy. With their supreme playability, understated elegance, and unmistakable full and balanced sound they are the quintessential Guild acoustic guitar.

Yes, it’s marketing-speak, but it’s mostly true. Anyway, this guitar is a very early build (July 10, 2010) and, so far, I’ve only been able to find one other that has an earlier build date.

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The model wasn’t formally introduced until November 2010. Catalog info shows the cutaway and non-cutaway were still available in early 2014. Going by Guild website info, the F-212XLCE was discontinued in December 2013 with the F-212XL leaving in May 2014. However, @chazmo noted in this thread that it was the non-cutaway that was deleted first so it’s all a jumble of confusion.

A little background info - the original F-212XL was introduced in 1966. It had a solid mahogany body that was 17” wide and 5” deep. The 3-piece mahogany neck was topped with an ebony fingerboard. It used straight bracing with three tone bars and the model remained in the Guild catalog until 1985/86.

Here's an example of a 1978 F-212XL.

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The reintroduced F-212XL Standard followed the basic dimensions of the original although mine is shallower at 4 3/4”. Appointments are more plain than the original. The only available finish was natural (gloss). It was given a satin finished, 2-piece mahogany neck topped with a rosewood fingerboard. The rosewood headstock veneer has a mother-of-pearl Guild logo, but alas, it does not have a chesterfield inlay. I like how the front of the headstock is finished in gloss to complement the gloss body. Only the back of the neck is satin, though mine is more of a semi-gloss.

It has a slimmer neck profile thanks to the single, dual-action truss rod. In addition, it was revamped with scalloped, red spruce bracing with two tone bars bringing it into a different tone zone compared to the original model.

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Interestingly, like the original F-212XL, the earliest XL Standards did not have a back stripe. Also, in keeping with the austerity program of the Standard series, the guitar has a 2-ply bound top and a single bound back.

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The folks in New Hartford must have felt sorry for the plain jane F-212XL Standard because by March 2011 they added a back stripe along with a 4-ply bound top to make it fancier.

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The fit and finish is excellent. The folks at New Hartford did not skimp on anything even though this guitar was part of the “Standard” series. The woods are top notch and the build quality is superb. The Sitka spruce top has extremely tight grain (20 per inch) and is perfectly quarter sawn with a ton of silking. Heck, even the bridge pins are bone! IMHO, the rosewood that FMIC was sourcing for Tacoma and NH wasn’t as nice looking as the rosewood used in Westerly in the 1990s. The rosewood I’ve seen on Tacoma and NH guitars is often very porous and open-grained.

I don’t think this was an attempt at cost savings, but rather that this was the grade of rosewood available at the time. My NH F-40 has a rosewood fingerboard and bridge of the same quality and I’ve handled a couple of Tacoma-made Guilds with the same grade of rosewood. Even some G&L guitars from that time period have some pretty porous rosewood boards. It’s more of a visual thing and I can’t feel the larger grain pores while playing.

To illustrate the point, here’s a pic of the fretboard on my 1995 D-26. I didn’t remove the strings, but you can see the wood grain clearly.

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And here’s a pic of the fretboard on the 2010 F-212XL Standard. The grain is more open.

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As I expected, this 12er is easy to play thanks to the slim neck. It’s definitely easier to play than the Westerly made 12ers I had. The Gotoh Mini SG-381 tuners are smooth, precise and hold tune well.

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Tonally, the F-212XL Standard has a very even response which is typical for Guild, I reckon. It has good volume and presence. It’s much louder than the F-212C I had. As is often the case with guitars built with a mahogany body, the fundamental jumps out from the pick attack and blooms with harmonics. It has a richer sound than my G-312 which has a rosewood body, albeit it's a dreadnaught. The F-212XL Standard has great note separation and clarity making it a good choice as a “strummer” because it won’t get muddy, yet it sounds rich.

I’m really pleased with F-212XL Standard in every way. After owning two Taylor 555s that were uninspiring, I kind of gave up on jumbo mahogany 12ers. I’m glad this one came along and changed my mind. I plan on comparing it to my other 12-string guitars and presenting the results here on LTG, so stay tuned for that.
 

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I'm pulling my F-212XL out for some play time. :) By the way, mine was built in September, GG.
 

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Congratulations! I enjoyed your write-up on the New Hartford Standard Series F-212XL. I'm also a fan of the NH Standard Series.
 

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HNGD! Here here for the NH Standards 🤘

The top on yours in that first photo is luscious, just a beauty, congrats!
 

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I went looking for the "delivery day" images I took when Chaz got his, but I must have dumped them
after I sent them to him. If Chaz's isn't the first off the line, its has to be very close, and must have been
the first shipped in New England ;)
 

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I went looking for the "delivery day" images I took when Chaz got his, but I must have dumped them
after I sent them to him. If Chaz's isn't the first off the line, its has to be very close, and must have been
the first shipped in New England ;)
I'd say that if Greg's guitar was built on July 10, 2010, it has to be the earliest one I know of. I remember @chazmo bought his when they were first announced, but he said that his was made in September of 2010. I wonder when the changeover to the backstrip happened?
 

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I'd say that if Greg's guitar was built on July 10, 2010, it has to be the earliest one I know of. I remember @chazmo bought his when they were first announced, but he said that his was made in September of 2010. I wonder when the changeover to the backstrip happened?
Yup. Mine was probably the first customer order, but Guild built a bunch before mine, probably to send to some of their higher end retailers. My order went in just after LMG1 which was April or May in 2010, right (I forget?), and I didn't get it until Sept. Bill Ashton met me at Union Music when I went to pick it up there (days after it was built). IN any case, my order definitely predates GG's build. Good question on the back center strip (and the binding change). Maybe that's when they switched from gloss to satin? Dunno. Like GG says, some time in 2011.

[edit: thanks @Bill Ashton for helping me remember how I actually took delivery of the guitar]
 
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A little background info - the original F-212XL was introduced in 1966. It had a solid mahogany body that was 17” wide and 5” deep.
Congrats on the F212XL Greg! I love hog 12 strings so that one looks pretty much perfect to me. I have a '69 (Hans estimated, the records on the early 212XLs are not good) that is wonderful but it has a big meaty neck that is a little bit of extra work to play. Interestingly is is not as deep as the specs you dug up which I'm sure are accurate. Maybe there was some variation through the years. A couple of pics below.

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With my very limited data, it looks to have changed sometime in March 2011.
I'd like to know when this happened as well. It seems like 2011 would be the best guess, as other changes were made at this time (cutaway models were added).
 
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