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Finally she's arrived. My second Cv-2C, a sunburst.



I'll skip most of the details since the CV-2C was already reviewed and I'll focus ont he differences.
First the finish: the Guild antique sunburst has something special, and the results on the contemporary series are astonishing...and especially on the maple Cv-2 and CV-2C, where the burst is applied on the top, the back, the sides and the neck...let the pictures do the talking:



It's a pity that the neck is mahogany instead of flame maple, with a maple neck the guitar would have been breathtaking:



The guitar is branded USED as well, and the person who cared of the setup made a good job, although I think he exaggerated sanding the saddle, here there's a close up:

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I changed the phosphor bronze D'addario with a set of new Martin SP 80/20...that was a BAD idea...I found out that the bone pins were loose and tuning was a nightmare, they obviously worked out them as well along with the saddle:



I have no idea if the "set up" is factory or was done later at the "rehabilitation center for flawed Guilds", but the guitar resulted more confortable than the blonde CV-2C I previously purchased, although not as low as the guitar now is after a visit to my trusted luthier. About the sound...well, the two guitars are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!

They don't even seem to be the same model, it was really surprising, it's possible that it's partially due to the Martin 80/20 strings (the Blonde is fitted with Elixir PB) but the sunburst is a much brighter guitar, even out of the box, while the Blonde is much mellower and stronger on the middle register. Taking into account that it was necessary to play the Blonde for at least one month to get the "real" sound from the guitar, I'm pretty optimistic about this new CV-2C.



Another difference that surprised me was the presence of a "GAD" pickguard with a completely different pattern, probably dedicated to te sunburst finish:



I'm thinking about using it, but on the other side I found for just 5 euro in one of the shops of my town a NOS traditional Guild guitar:



That, as you can see, would need a lot of cutting in order to fit a florentine cutaway Valencia...I would like to ask the advice of the members of the board, which one do you think that would look best on this guitar? :?: :?: :?:

In conclusion, this guitar is extremely handsome and now I've the problem to sell one of my CV-2C since I cannot keep both of them (with the incoming sunburst D-25) and I don't know which one, althought for my way of playing a brighter guitar would suit more. Oh, I forgot to mention that the seller also sent me a baseball cap with the guitar...and it also fits me well too!Now I can have an avatar like West's with sunburst Guild and a hat, even if it's not a Stetson... :mrgreen:

 

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We regret to inform the LTG members that due to slow connection and upload of imageshack pics the review is not completed yet, please come back and visit the updated edits of the first of this thread.

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Beautiful chunk o' maple, cuthbert.

The saddle... well, that may be just fine depending on the neck angle and frets.

If the guitar is playable without buzzing and feels good, then you're in luck! Enjoy.
 

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The guitar is branded USED as well, and the person who cared of the setup made a good job, although I think he exaggerated sanding the saddle, here there's a close up:

Actually, all the new Tacoma guilds with serials starting with TK that I've seen have this new saddle design. Its thicker, compensated, and bone.

Anyone else care to verify this? My Tacomas that start with TI (2006) and TJ (2007) don't have this saddle design.
 

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jazzmang said:
The guitar is branded USED as well, and the person who cared of the setup made a good job, although I think he exaggerated sanding the saddle, here there's a close up:

Actually, all the new Tacoma guilds with serials starting with TK that I've seen have this new saddle design. Its thicker, compensated, and bone.

Anyone else care to verify this? My Tacomas that start with TI (2006) and TJ (2007) don't have this saddle design.

Jazz, the compensated saddle is the same design of my blonde CV-2C, and it's very slender and beautiful, very well made. The difference is that Blondie's bone was much, much thicker than Sunnie's, on th eother side, Blondie's action out of the box was very high, and I had to sand it a lot, while this one IMO is too thin.

I suspect that Sunnie's neck is slightly lower than Blondie's, or the angle is different, but still Sunnie's action is very good, close to my usual action, that I think most of you would consider way too low, eivdently the luthier who made the job on this guitar had more aggressive ideas abotu the set up, what I didn't like were what they'd had done to the pins and the fact that the slots for the strings are insufficient to ensure a good pressure angle at the nut.

Anyway, nothing that cannot be adjusted with 30 euros, I'd do it myself but I don't have the tools for the slots...the annoying pins, well I was considering about purchasing a set set with abalone inlays.
 

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Scratch said:
Beautiful Guild, Alex. How's the neck?

Scratch, the neck is good, I had to adjust a little the truss rod to have the action I like on the first 12 frets. It worked well. No issues on Sunnie as well as on Blondie, but I suspect that the angle of the neck of these CV-2C is insufficient in relation to the height of the bridge. Or the bridge is too high, if you prefer, or the neck is too low on the top, in any case, there are some millimeters,missing somewhere, if I had to design a guitar, I would make all the vertical dimensions of the fingeboard, top, bridge, saddle in relation with themselves, from an engineering point of view they aren't separate entities, hwile her eI have the impression that they invented an interesting neck joint but they didn't care about its relative height in comparison with carry over components like the bridge.

I don't know if I made myself clear: today I'm pretty tired and I've the impression to become...convoluted in my writing... :oops:
 

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Chazmo said:
Beautiful chunk o' maple, cuthbert.

The saddle... well, that may be just fine depending on the neck angle and frets.

If the guitar is playable without buzzing and feels good, then you're in luck! Enjoy.

Actually I'll live a little lower, but in this case I'm almost in the moodo to try to disassemble the neck and use a thin layer of maple, or graphite, or whatever, to raise the entire neck, if the bolt on system works the way it should it could be an interesting experiment.

BTW, I'm curious to hear your opinion about my choice of pickguard...what about the traditional large one?
 

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Congrats on the guitar, Cuthbert. I'll weigh in on the pickguard issue, for what it's worth. I think a clear pickguard would be best, but given the choice between the two you photographed, I'd definitely go with the GAD-style one. The color of the larger one doesn't complement the top, IMO.
 

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cuthbert said:
Chazmo said:
Beautiful chunk o' maple, cuthbert.

The saddle... well, that may be just fine depending on the neck angle and frets.

If the guitar is playable without buzzing and feels good, then you're in luck! Enjoy.

Actually I'll live a little lower, but in this case I'm almost in the moodo to try to disassemble the neck and use a thin layer of maple, or graphite, or whatever, to raise the entire neck, if the bolt on system works the way it should it could be an interesting experiment.

BTW, I'm curious to hear your opinion about my choice of pickguard...what about the traditional large one?

Congrats on your new burst CV-2C, Cuth!! Looks quite striking ..... in fact, quite a bit like mine :roll:

I was going to ad my news about my guitar's neck repair to your older thread, but it seems appropos to do it here:
very good news from my guitar tech: he had no problem whatsoever with unbolting and disengaging neck assembly. He used a shim to increase the neck angle slightly and now the action is just perfect! I haven't measured the string heights, but couldn't be any greater than 4/64 and 6/64" at the 12th fret. I'm very pleased. He said any future adjustments should be a snap.
Total bill for the neck adjustment and fret redress was $95.
 

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pickoid said:
Congrats on the guitar, Cuthbert. I'll weigh in on the pickguard issue, for what it's worth. I think a clear pickguard would be best, but given the choice between the two you photographed, I'd definitely go with the GAD-style one. The color of the larger one doesn't complement the top, IMO.

Well actually the traditional pickguard has been used on many sunburst guitars, like the 412, for instance.

I tried to cut it to fit the CV-2C, unfortunately it's pretty difficult with a pair of scissors, but this is what I got:

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I took inspiration from Guildzilla's GF-60, although I'm afriad I've cut too aroudn the cutway...

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zplay said:
Congrats on your new burst CV-2C, Cuth!! Looks quite striking ..... in fact, quite a bit like mine :roll:

I was going to ad my news about my guitar's neck repair to your older thread, but it seems appropos to do it here:
very good news from my guitar tech: he had no problem whatsoever with unbolting and disengaging neck assembly. He used a shim to increase the neck angle slightly and now the action is just perfect! I haven't measured the string heights, but couldn't be any greater than 4/64 and 6/64" at the 12th fret. I'm very pleased. He said any future adjustments should be a snap.
Total bill for the neck adjustment and fret redress was $95.

Very good action, it's the one I have on my Blondie after the proper setup, this one is slightly higher but I don't think we are going to disassemble the neck.

95$ is a very reasonable sum for all the work, congratulations!

P.S. Did you get a pickguard like mine?Do you like the "new" traditional?
 

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CB you animal - another CV-2C, and a D-25 on the way !! Really beautiful curves and colors on that baby.

IMHO, definitely go with the smaller uncut pickguard, much nicer all around. Great pics by the way - just the way we like 'em.

Congrats cuthbert.
 

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It's a beautiful guitar Cut, I like it. Congratulations to you on a nice find. Oh, and my hat isn't a Stetson, though I'm sure you could find a Stetson like it. I think Scratch has the Stetson. :wink:

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West R Lee said:
It's a beautiful guitar Cut, I like it. Congratulations to you on a nice find. Oh, and my hat isn't a Stetson, though I'm sure you could find a Stetson like it. I think Scratch has the Stetson. :wink:

West

I hoped you appreciated my new avater, about western hats, I'm not really an expert, all I learn from John Ford's movies is:

White hat=Stetson=good guy.

Black hat= flat top=bad guy.
 

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cuthbert said:
zplay said:
Congrats on your new burst CV-2C, Cuth!! Looks quite striking ..... in fact, quite a bit like mine :roll:

I was going to ad my news about my guitar's neck repair to your older thread, but it seems appropos to do it here:
very good news from my guitar tech: he had no problem whatsoever with unbolting and disengaging neck assembly. He used a shim to increase the neck angle slightly and now the action is just perfect! I haven't measured the string heights, but couldn't be any greater than 4/64 and 6/64" at the 12th fret. I'm very pleased. He said any future adjustments should be a snap.
Total bill for the neck adjustment and fret redress was $95.

Very good action, it's the one I have on my Blondie after the proper setup, this one is slightly higher but I don't think we are going to disassemble the neck.

95$ is a very reasonable sum for all the work, congratulations!

P.S. Did you get a pickguard like mine?Do you like the "new" traditional?

Mine came with a newer style pickguard that just seemed tiny and kind of pathetic to my taste, but then, I'm not a pickguard fan.
My CV-2C is pickguardless and looks like a modern fingerstyle instrument, which suits me. If I were to have one, it would be clear. But, between the two you have, i'd go with the traditional one that you have worked on.
 

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Beautiful, beautiful guitar! Great sunburst!

Knowing little about Guild models, I went to look that up on their website and couldn't find it. It is an old guitar in very good condition?

Congrats!

Dave
 
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