Graham
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The contemporary series was released in '07 I believe, always standing to be corrected.
OK I did it again...
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coastie99
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cuthbert said:
That's a very lovely guitar Cuthbert, congratulations.
I really don't think that either of those pickguards will look right ...... they are just not the right colour !
Personally, I wouldn't have a pickguard on it, but if I did, It would be black.
kydave said:
Thank you...this is not a old guitar, actually it's brand new,so new that...they just discontinued it!
As Graham already wrote, they introduced the Contemporary series (C0-1,CO-1C orchestra style, Cv-1,Cv-1C,CV-2,CV-2C and Willy porter signature Valencia style, DC-1 and DC-2 dreadnought) in 2007, and they just discontinued now when they moved the production from Tacoma to Connecticut.
They were an attempt to make something different than the traditional series of Guilds, according the actual trends, sono minimalistic decoration (small dots, wood rosette, no installed pickguard although as you can see they gave you a small pickguard that it seems very few people liked), new shield and a peculiar design of bolt on neck with a graphite block (that you can see from the soundhole) and graphite bars into the neck, plus a graphite layer under the soundhole. The idea was that this graphite parts would have related the neck, top and body of the guitar allowing a better transfer of the vibration.
In the other thread there's a pic of the disassmbled neck, it's a very interesting design, although it gained a very negative reputation because some people had action problems on the fingerboard extension, but now it seems that teh probalme wasn't a design flaw of the bolt on neck but others, such as bridges, fingerboard, frets etcc...
So in the end Fender decided to terminate the entire line and hte remaining stock of guitars was branded USED on the back of the headstock and sold without warranty, as an used instrument, but I'm pretty sure that these guitars, at least the two I had, didn't have any aesthetic or structural flaw and they were branded used at the factory.
If you now want a new top quality guitar (it's enough to see the woods they used here) for less than 1000$ I recommend you to take one of these USED contemporary Guilds, of course, no warranty is a risk, but on the other they're sold of less than their price, so even if you have to fix something until you spend less than 500$ the operation makes sense economy-wise.
coastie99 said:
Mmm, for the colour of the traditional pickguard, it's the same used on the jumbos, and it is used on sunburst guitars. In this one I don't think that it's so wrong:
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The problem is that I'm pretty unskilled at cutting pickguards, and I already cut too much, my idea was to make a curve perfectly parallel to the florentine cut, and besides that, while cutting stright wasn't a problem, the curve didn't come out as smooth at it should be, just with a pair of scissors...
BTW, finding a 80s NOS Guild pickguard is VERY difficult, everywhere, I looked for days on the net and found none, then I went to a shop of my town to buy a set of strings and the guy who knew me told me: "you're a Guild fan, aren't you?Come in the lab and you'll see what relic of the Past I found yesterday..."
And he had a Westerly era pickguard! Incredible, isn't it?It still had the pre-euro tag, that equivalent to about 3.5 euros...
taabru45
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Get yourself a pad of construction paper, and cut to shape. use a loop of magic tape with the sticky side out to temporarily fix it to guitar. Wrap a piece of sandpaper around a dowel like a slice of the end of a wooden broom handle, and use that for final shaping of the plastic, Use the final acceptable piece of construction paper pick guard taped to the plastic as a template. If none of the above helps, send me a pm to arrange to deliver the guitar to me, I promise to love it, without the pickguard. :lol: :lol: Steffan
Graham said:
Cuthbert, I'm in total agreement with Graham on this one. I can't offer much of an opinion for you, but if you really want to put a pickguard on there that shows, I'd go with with something very small, possibly in a Martin teardrop shape. That's just me..
I will say that since these guitars are "Contemporary" series, it would not be really out of character not to use a pickguard.cjd-player
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Beautiful guitar.
If it were me, I'd cut my own CLEAR pick guard.
Kinda shaped like the GAD, but with the edges parallel to the dark area of the sunburst.
If it were me, I'd cut my own CLEAR pick guard.
Kinda shaped like the GAD, but with the edges parallel to the dark area of the sunburst.
coastie99
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cjd-player said:
Hadn't given a clear pickguard a thought !
Yes, I agree ........ clear it would be for me.
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Graham said:Stetsons are very kewl. 8)
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cjd-player said:
Much as I hate to agree with Carl :shock: - I was thinking the same - it looks so good without one that if you really need a guard, clear would be the answer
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JerryR said:
Holy Crap!
Jerry agreed with coastie and me in the same post. :shock:
Mark this day on your calander. :lol:
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JerryR said:)Graham said:Stetsons are very kewl. 8)
Pity about the wearer :mrgreen: (But the beer sure looks good
The hat looks nice, too. :wink: :mrgreen:
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cjd-player said:
Well occassionally - very occassionally - you're both right
Scratch
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I still advise playing any 'used' CV model before purchasing. There's one on eBay for $699. Caution Will Robinson!
JerryR said:cjd-player said:
Much as I hate to agree with Carl :shock: - I was thinking the same - it looks so good without one that if you really need a guard, clear would be the answer
I'm stasrting to think to be the only one here who associates the Guild identity with the pickguard, among other things such like the shield, the chesterfield, shape of the headstock etc...
In the end I mounted the traditional one, although not perfectly cut I think it proves that this not an anonymous modern fingerstyle guitar:
It's a Guild, after all! :wink:
Sorry to bump this thread again, but I and a luthier friend of mine took off the neck in order to "explore" the infamous contemporary system and see if it worked as advertised, so I'll post some of the pics we have taken.
This is the heel of the heel of the neck, with the ebony fingerboard and the graphite reinforcements:
It came out without any problem, the neck and the body were finished separately,and carry a common reference number (in this case 158 008) the joint is VERY tight, when you screw the bolt, the neck is literally sucked into the pocket.
Resetting the neck is not that difficult:
This is the neck pocket:
Globally, on the two contemporary guitars I have, this system works pretty well, and it seems that it was conceived to simplify the operations of maintenance of the neck. To those that experienced problems with the action on the fretboard extension, I suggest to bring the guitar to a competent luthier and reset it, since it seems so simple I don't think that if your guy is a professional he should have any problem whatsoever. If he tells you that this is a neck joint he had never seen, well the correct answer is that being a patented invention it should be innovative, but this shouldn't be an excuse.
Both guitars are awesome and I recommend this series of instruments, they have a particular "voice" I didn't find in any other guitars, and everybody who plays them love them at first chord.
This is the heel of the heel of the neck, with the ebony fingerboard and the graphite reinforcements:
It came out without any problem, the neck and the body were finished separately,and carry a common reference number (in this case 158 008) the joint is VERY tight, when you screw the bolt, the neck is literally sucked into the pocket.
Resetting the neck is not that difficult:
This is the neck pocket:
Globally, on the two contemporary guitars I have, this system works pretty well, and it seems that it was conceived to simplify the operations of maintenance of the neck. To those that experienced problems with the action on the fretboard extension, I suggest to bring the guitar to a competent luthier and reset it, since it seems so simple I don't think that if your guy is a professional he should have any problem whatsoever. If he tells you that this is a neck joint he had never seen, well the correct answer is that being a patented invention it should be innovative, but this shouldn't be an excuse.
Both guitars are awesome and I recommend this series of instruments, they have a particular "voice" I didn't find in any other guitars, and everybody who plays them love them at first chord.
12stringer
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Good show Cutbert...I love to see how necks are put together...Thanks for posting those pictures!
6L6
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Beautiful!
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