Tesla Warranty

[bluesypicky]

But what about the grandchildren? ????? Lol

This has been covered (post 19 page 2). "The little bastards" are on their own. They haven't done anything for us.

 

[bluesypicky]

Just so we have this straight Pascal, Beemers are two wheeled BMWs, Bimmers are four wheeled ones. I'm on BMW number three now, and find the maintenance on them to be no worse than most cars these days, although I do change my own oil, plugs and the like. All three of mine have been quite dependable as well. Cadillac CTS' on the other hand, haven't exactly gotten glowing marks for reliability, though they seem to be nice cars to drive otherwise.

Apologies for the typo.
If you do basic maintenance yourself, as you and I do, then no problem, but when and if you need parts... ouch! That's when it pays to buy domestic.
I love your car btw....

 

[adorshki]

I knew there was something wrong with that picture. The challenge to yourself to buy a car today.
Hurry and trade that bore in.

I'm still about a grand upside down on it. I might even keep it just for commuting to work. The reliability thing.

Boring vehicles belong to non-car-lover people. You're an F1 fan for crying out loud!

"Yes but" I've attained a stage of enlightened insight that street driving is an entirely different art to master than competition.
The highest possible accomplishment in street driving is planning your throttle control so perfectly that you never have to come to a complete stop or even use the brakes, your mph is controlled entirely by a smooth and gradual throttle adjustment.
People tailgating you on the freeway?
F--k 'em.
People giving you dirty looks as they pass you and charge up to a red light and slam on their brakes, coming to a full stop just in time for the change to green?
F--k 'em.
Jaywalkers stepping off the curb right in front of you?
F... oh, waitaminnit.
Jaywalkers are SUCH a buzzkill.
One of the few legitimate reasons to use brakes.
State Patrol giving you the eye as they come out of nowhere, passing you doing 60?
Pat yourself on the back for being such a law-abiding old fogie, and smile and wave.
They're some of the few folks on the road who may know what it can actually do:
0-60 in 6.5 (no wheelspin); 60-90 in another 4. Without even flooring it.
(95 in 3rd at 5800rpm if you keep it locked in "D". I rode with the dealer mechanic one day while he was testing the trans for proper function. I never took it over about 3800rpm myself, thus my fairly sedate 0-90 times)
I used to reserve that particular 60-90 move for suckering in over-ambitious tailgaters, and just making sure the ol' supercharger was still pressurizing properly once in a while..
Even more fun was letting 'em pass me and get a couple of car lengths and then passing 'em when they were just about all in at 80 or so. T-bird wasn't even breathing hard yet.

Sooo..imagine that with sky-blue leather interior including full power seats with adjustable lumbar and side bolsters, leather-wrapped wheel and shifter, power windows/locks/moonroof, and (factory) JBL sound system with subwoofer, cassette and cd player and of course full analog gauge cluster including boost gauge.
That was my car.
"It doesn't LOOK like a musclecar..."
Why no, it doesn't, does it?
Thank you!
I could get around the the typical cloverleaf ramp in it at about 42-45 before wheel scrub would set in.
Milan's topped out at about 38 even with AWD/traction control, and lousy body lean besides.
T-bird would be flat.
I suspect I wouldn't even risk taking a Tesla over 30 in that scenario, I'd be afarid it'd slide right off the road, but to be fair I don't know if it's got a traction control or not. Even if it did, no traction control can counteract loss of lateral grip except by taking over and activating the ABS to slow the car back down enough for tires to star gripping again.
The Milan actually does a fairly decent job of that, comes in handy in the rain if I'm sloppy or somebody does something stupid in front of me.
Like the Tesla that 180'd on a wet freeway a few months back.

Sadly, many of these jewels (Supercoupes) have come to this:

"Best Time: 10.680 at 129.800 MPH
Dyno Numbers: horsepower: 374.2 at 6000 RPM
torque: 461.1 at 3400 RPM
Future Plans: Bigger supercharger "
More testosterone, anyone?
But I suppose there will always be boys who want to beef up their toys.
I don't think you can do that with a Tesla yet.
But it would probably void the warranty anyway.

 

[adorshki]

Cadillac CTS' on the other hand, haven't exactly gotten glowing marks for reliability, though they seem to be nice cars to drive otherwise.

My bad, meant the new one, the ATS, because it's got RWD/IRS.
Still ain't as pretty as a T-bird though.
BEFORE we even look at the GM reliability thing.
:wink:

 

[fronobulax]

The Milan was an "unplanned" purchase after the beloved T-Bird SuperCoupe was t-boned.
Now THERE was a true "Gentleman's Hot Rod" as they say.
A supercharged 3.8 liter V6 yielding 315 ft-lbs of torque all in at 2200rpm, but I've told that story before...it was Ford's highest ouput motor for 2 years ('89-'90), even out-powered the 5.0 V-8.
Arizona Highway Patrol even had 'em in pursuit duty for a coupla years, no special updates needed, it was good enough to be a "police package" outta the box...I even used to get 24mpg out of it pretty consistently, basically by stayin' outta the boost, with a heavy duty 4psd auto with lock-up OD 4th gear.
Limited slip, IRS, 4 wheel disc ABS, automatic electronic adjusting shocks, (actually I used to just leave it in "Firm" all the time) dual exhaust, distributorless ignition, special block casting and bottom end to handle the supercharger pressure, rack & pinion steering, 16" wheels with special springs and sway bars to match, that thing even cornered flatter than the 5 RX-7's I had before I got it.
It's Achilles Heel was that by 2005 several of the computer boards (ABS, electronic ride control, spark timing) modules and a couple of mechanical bits (ABS master cylinder, electronic shocks) were out of production and nobody was making aftermarket replacements. I kept it absolutely bone-stock so I used to worry about every little hiccup.
The Milan is boringly reliable (bought a "Certified Pre-owned"), but at least it has the turning radius of a pregnant sow. Ahh, the glories of FWD. Even if I DO have a diff at the rear and IRS. In fact if it hadn't at least been All Wheel Drive I woulda been forced to keep shopping.
I was on a mission to buy a car in one day, Ford was at the top of the list, the T-bird was almost undriveable (in fact the Ford used car guy asked me how I managed to get it there since the two front tires were no longer in parallel planes and the passenger was wandering a bit on top of that....but hey, that's where we separate the drivers from the sane folks, right?)(OK, I did head out the door early on a Sunday morning so that I'd be sharin' the road with as few people as possible, just in case....)
I'm lookin' at BMWs for the next one, wanna get the Milan paid off first.
Caddy CTS is actually gettin' the eye too.
Wonder how Tesla owners'll feel about their cars in 20 years?

A Moderator having ignorance concerning automobiles might be concerned enough to Moderate this post because said Moderator has no friggin' clue what it is saying.

But I don't think I am that Moderator

 

[killdeer43]

All well and good but how do you guys haul kayaks and camping gear and lumber, and, and....? :wink-new:

Curious Joe

 

[twocorgis]

All well and good but how do you guys haul kayaks and camping gear and lumber, and, and....? :wink-new:

Curious Joe

With one of these

Got that covered

 

[killdeer43]

Thanks, Sandy! I knew you'd come through. :semi-twins:

Joe

 

[killdeer43]

With one of these

Got that covered

Been there, done that. Matter of fact, here we were in Ken/Scratch's driveway in the Texas Hill Country 3 1/2 years ago.

And what a lovely ride it was, for 3 weeks and about 8,000 miles.

Joe

 

[rampside]

Well, you know, when you reach a certain age and it comes to practicality and common sense, we break down and acquire those vehicles that will keep things, well, you know...
But then there are individuals who have that insatiable immature urge to satisfy that inner addiction to hot rod every now and again...
And that's why I've kept this bad boy around for thirty plus years (not unlike why I've kept the S-100 around forty plus years)

It was produced in the leaner performance years for the Z-28, but I have large box full of performance robbing hardware that I took off the car and have added a fair amount of performance enhancing stuff too.

Rumbling down the blacktop once in awhile with ZZ Top blasting through the speakers at a level, even my college age daughter would be proud of, is, well, SWEET!!!!!

ps: wouldn't get by with driving this legally in most states

 

[bluesypicky]

All well and good but how do you guys haul kayaks and camping gear and lumber, and, and....? :wink-new: Curious Joe

You didn't forget my "Blue Thunder" Citroen did ya?.... I know there are a few pics of her somewhere around here.
My kayak fits right in! And I couldn't care less if it's wet and covered in mud when I haul it in there. :applause:

 

[bluesypicky]

ps: wouldn't get by with driving this legally in most states

I know what you're speaking of.... don't try this on an open road:

I said it before and I'll say it again: Your Z my friend, is an an amazing condition.
What mileage does it have?

 

[rampside]

I know what you're speaking of.... don't try this on an open road:

I said it before and I'll say it again: Your Z my friend, is an an amazing condition.
What mileage does it have?

I feel the need for speed on occasion, but that'd be way beyond anything I could comprehend.

It's around 75K and I've managed to never let it see snow. I'm hoping to get it back to show condition some day. If and when I'm blessed with retirement. And, then there's the wife's car also (she bought it brand new when she was a senior in high school).

 

[bluesypicky]

I'm hoping to get it back to show condition some day.

You don't have far to go it seems... toughest spot is usually the engine bay (that's if you really want to make it a "show" car), as it takes a bunch of hours taking the motor out of the way to clean up or repaint the concealed areas.

So what was the wife's high school purchase? :cool-new: (Now that we're definitely into the aforementioned "testosterone" thread and that the moderator is looking the other way for lack of subject knowledge / understanding) :laughing:

 

[adorshki]

A Moderator having ignorance concerning automobiles might be concerned enough to Moderate this post because said Moderator has no friggin' clue what it is saying.

All you need to remember is that "zombie" is now the code word for "politician" and "charging station" is code for "regulatory structure".
"GM" is code for "GM".
"Ignition switch recall" is code for "fiasco".
"Warranty" is code for "Build it right the first time"
"Bone stock" is code for "if it ain't broke don't fix it".
I think that just about covers it.

 

[adorshki]

hmmmm....I see the link for the photo of the modified drag car I posted is down, but I found this:



Given the stock wheels and tires on that car and the ET at end of tape, I suspect it's stock.
Warms the cockles of my heart.
With that kind of guts one could haul one's goodies around in a trailer pretty easily.
:smile:
+

 

[bluesypicky]

Nice "sleeper". Almost popped a wheelie on the start! As a matter of fact given the power delivery here, he could have used tougher shocks to smoke the Camaro even more.... guess he didn't have the adjustment on "firm" or shocks are blown....

Fro: You're not as clueless on cars as you claim to be. I saw you gas up at a station in CT.

 

[adorshki]

Nice "sleeper". Almost popped a wheelie on the start! As a matter of fact given the power delivery here, he could have used tougher shocks to smoke the Camaro even more.... guess he didn't have the adjustment on "firm" or shocks are blown....

IRS allowing a little extra squat, I think. Even new shocks'd probably do that, under that much acceleration G load, without ladder bars. But ladder bars'd nullify the advantages of the IRS in everyday driving.
The full-on drag guys keep the stock differential if running under 400 ftlbs torque but do use much stiffer springs/shocks, some of 'em add ladder bars.
Easy to "light 'em up" with a stock motor, one of the reasons for the posi-traction is just to keep it from fishtailing if you do.
Personally I just didn't like to treat my baby like that. Did it a couple of times right after I bought it before I learned just how little pedal it needed to get movin'.
It was just nice knowin' it was there if I wanted it.
:tranquillity:
OK, I'm not tryin' to turn this place into "Let's Talk Tesla" but in the interest of balanced reporting and to answer some of my own not-so-rhetorical questions, I did a little snooping around on the Model S' performance specs.
IN a nutshell:
T-bird Supercoupe curb weight 3600lbs approx; lateral grip .87g
Tesla S "P85" (High output motor/battery combo) curb weight 4650lbs approx (!); lateral grip .91g (also "!!")
So, to be honest, a Tesla should get around a cloverleaf about as easily as the ol' Supercoupe, since lateral grip is an absolute measure of the specific vehicle's ability to hold the road in a corner regardless of its weight.
BUT Supercoupe still gets the nod on turning circle at 35.6 ft vs 37 for the Tesla, and 37.5 for the Milan.
An apparently impartial review of Musk's person car DID reveal some pretty wide variances between optimum quoted range on a charge and actual results in real world driving, and for the curious, here's that link:
http://steinbuch.wordpress.com/2012/08/27/tesla-model-s-test-and-range-verification-by-kim-reynolds/
I suspect Mr. Musk's current mission is to get the weight way down and the range way up.
In the meantime I remembered that the 2015 Mustang features a first as standard equip for Mustangs:
Independant Rear Suspension.
Base model V6 with 270lbft of torque will suit me just fine.
Looks pretty good too.
:wink:

 

[killdeer43]

Wow, you guys are still drag racing? Amazing. :wink-new:

Joe

 

[jcwu]

Nowadays I'm just dragging.