The Beatles not getting along is overrated....

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Being born in 1962, I was immersed in Beatles music for the entirety of my life. They were like wallpaper, and you know what they say about familiarity breeding...
That being said, looking at them in context is to look at them with the utmost respect. They did move the tectonic plates of music in a manner that no other single group did. Maybe it wasn't the dark, brooding, borderline frightening music that I gravitated to, but you can argue quite convincingly that they are underrated still.

All you have to do is look at the music *before* the Beatles, and look at it afterwards. Look at recording techniques alone!
 
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fronobulax said:
The Beatles are overrated and the people who obsess over them after several decades might consider getting a life.


:)

I am being snarky but I do look forward to the time when someone posts something about the Beatles on LTG that is new and different and not a rehash of what has been posted many times before. If your reaction to this post is to defend the Beatles and their reputation then you are part of the problem as I see it.
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Franny,
Your post gave me my laugh for the day.
Oh, the delicious irony of you telling others to consider getting a life.
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MT voiced my thoughts very nicely. I think a little self-moderation was in order for the "get a life" comment, but we are all guilty of lacking self-moderation occasionally.

I am definitely a Beatles fanatic, but weirdly, I also have a very fulfilling life outside of the Beatles.

I, too, have no trouble skipping over certain songs. There aren't many of them, but they are there.

BTW, it is a good point about trying to find "something new". No band has ever been (or ever will be, IMO) as dissected and analyzed as the Beatles. Let me recommend something if you looking for something new. The two part George Martin biography. "Maximum Volume" and "Sound Pictures" by Ken Womack is a real eye opener. Very detailed and interesting look at their recording process, their creativity given the limitations of the technology of the day, their evolution in the recording studio, and the impact Martin had. Of course, Martin also produced other artists, and his early career before the Beatles and after (like Jeff Beck's Blow by Blow album), is also very interesting reading.

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I particularly like anything from Revolver on.

Early songs are pretty great, but the lyrics, like "Run for your life little girl" are sorta kinda obnoxious when you're older and a little bit more discriminating than when you were 14.

This period of the Beatles here, they started becoming very unique in a very good way.



 
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Folks, you had to be there. To experience the development of The Beatles in real time gives one, imho, a very different perspective of their music compared to being a younger individual and having their complete body of work before you in it's entirety. I cannot comparatively imagine what it would have been like to pick up the White Album, for example, and have it be your introduction to The Beatles. Wow - a whole different ballgame.

At 14 years old in 1965, I'd initially immersed myself in the blues-oriented British bands (Stones, Yardbirds Animals, Kinks), as well as the Butterfield Blues Band. To my ear, something like "I Wanna Hold Your Hand - Wooo" sounded like the throw away bubble-gummy music that it pretty much was (again, imho). Of course you immediately heard every new Beatles tune as it was released, and there certainly were some I liked (including A Taste Of Honey, Little Child, All My Loving, I'll Cry Instead, I'm A Loser, Ringo's versions of Carl Perkins' Matchbox & Honey Don't, and others) - but by & large, it wasn't what I would choose to listen to at home. The album that finally flipped me towards the Beatles was the US-version of Rubber Soul. As a body of work, this was something significantly different from anything that had come before. The total explosion of adventurous musical directions in the second half of the '60s had plenty of players, but from Rubber Soul to Abbey Road, every Beatles release seemed to set a new course for others, if not to follow, to at least be inspired by. And seemingly everyone was waiting with anticipation to see what the next chapter of their musical journey would bring.

Even today, as a period piece I'm more likely to play the Yardbirds 'Roger The Engineer' before spinning a Beatles Cd - but I surely do appreciate the direct, or perhaps indirect, musical impact they had on essentially anyone who was around during the last half of the sixties.
 
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Westerly Wood said:
I watched a documentary once on Netflix re the Beatles incredible popularity in Russia. Some of you might have seen it. They have an annual Beatles fest. To commemorate the alleged (but never verified) concert they played over there in the 60s. Which may or may not have happened.

Great film. So interesting to see so many Russians perform covers of their fave Beatles songs too.
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This is it, a PBS show from 2009:

Video: Watch "How the Beatles Rocked the Kremlin" - How the Beatles Rocked the Kremlin

How the Beatles Rocked the Kremlin tells the extraordinary and untold story of how the Beatles punctured the Iron Curtain. In a personal journey through Russia by award-winning director Leslie Woodhead, he tells in first-person accounts the story of a secret revolution which contributed to the...
www.thirteen.org www.thirteen.org

When I first saw it was definitely "something new"! The show gives credit to the Beatles for "contributing to the fall of Communism". It is actually one of the most interesting shows I've seen about the Beatles!

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bobouz said:
Folks, you had to be there. To experience the development of The Beatles in real time gives one, imho, a very different perspective of their music compared to being a younger individual and having their complete body of work before you in it's entirety. I cannot comparatively imagine what it would have been like to pick up the White Album, for example, and have it be your introduction to The Beatles. Wow - a whole different ballgame.

At 14 years old in 1965, I'd initially immersed myself in the blues-oriented British bands (Stones, Yardbirds Animals, Kinks), as well as the Butterfield Blues Band. To my ear, something like "I Wanna Hold Your Hand - Wooo" sounded like the throw away bubble-gummy music that it pretty much was (again, imho). Of course you immediately heard every new Beatles tune as it was released, and there certainly were some I liked (including A Taste Of Honey, Little Child, All My Loving, I'll Cry Instead, I'm A Loser, Ringo's versions of Carl Perkins' Matchbox & Honey Don't, and others) - but by & large, it wasn't what I would choose to listen to at home. The album that finally flipped me towards the Beatles was the US-version of Rubber Soul. As a body of work, this was something significantly different from anything that had come before. The total explosion of adventurous musical directions in the second half of the '60s had plenty of players, but from Rubber Soul to Abbey Road, every Beatles release seemed to set a new course for others, if not to follow, to at least be inspired by. And seemingly everyone was waiting with anticipation to see what the next chapter of their musical journey would bring.

Even today, as a period piece I'm more likely to play the Yardbirds 'Roger The Engineer' before spinning a Beatles Cd - but I surely do appreciate the direct, or perhaps indirect, musical impact they had on essentially anyone who was around during the last half of the sixties.
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If I were smart I'd just keep my mouth shut because it seems that people aren't reading what I actually wrote or not understanding what I'm trying to say. That is usually a sign I should shut up.

But the observation above reminded me of something. I remember the Beatles but that was because of radio and older friends. My peers, pre-teens in 1964, just were not into music the same way they were a few years later. Similar things happen with the Summer of Love, Hippies, Woodstock and Viet Nam. A two or three age difference seriously changes the perception and experience even though we are now all lumped into the same demographic and lived through the same events.

Just an observation but it may help me find patience the next time there is is Beatles post.
 
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