Who wants an F/M20 case subject to price/availability ?

[coastie99]

Further to Jeff's comment on this page .........

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18042&start=60

I figure we should at least get an idea of numbers, first.

I'm mad as hell .......... a Gator 3/4 case which is within a poofteenth of fitting, is currently available at an outlet in the US for 70 friggin' dollars. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Can I even find one in Newsyland at any price ?? Of course not !! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

 

[john_kidder]

Coastie: I'm going sometime this week to check if the potential custom case supplier I referred to the original thread might still be around. See new post there.

 

[coastie99]

Coastie: I'm going sometime this week to check if the potential custom case supplier I referred to the original thread might still be around. See new post there.

Marvellisimo John ........ I've replied over there.

 

[twocorgis]

Coastie: I'm going sometime this week to check if the potential custom case supplier I referred to the original thread might still be around. See new post there.

Marvellisimo John ........ I've replied over there.

Coastie,

I'm definitely in. I love that little guitar, and want to give it a proper home.

 

[jgmaute]

I looked at the Gator 3/4 case and from my measurements it's 1" too short and 1/4 " too narrow in the upper bout. I dubbed it close but no cigar.

Here's what I posted over on the original thread, I'm thinking we can just consolidate case stuff on this thread now...

I was at Randy Wood's today to pick up my GAD 30R and, knowing he's a builder, shared our F/M20 case challenge with him. He immediately suggested we look at two saga cases (I didn't have my M20 with me or the measurements) SAGA CASES specifically the Superior Cases deluxe wood hardshell Classic/Dobro Item Number: CD-1512, and 0 or parlor style Item Number: CD-1513. check out the dimensions and see what you think. The 0/parlor looks like it would actually work except the depth and I don't know if the arch top will pick up the difference. Randy said if there is one that is a bit big he can call the company and see about having them insert extra padding to fit the smaller guitar.

just for comparison, here are the measurements I got off my M20 today
LB 13 3/4
UB 10 1/4
Waist 8 1/4
Body length 18
Guitar length 39 1/2
Depth 4 1/4

Randy asked me to call him with the measurements and he'll be glad to call his contact at Saga. I told him we may have a count of 5 but was not sure. I'll keep you posted on what I find out. joan

 

[coastie99]

Good news, bad news !!

The NZ importer can get a 3/4 Gator Case for me. About $150.

Happy, happy, happy !!

I read Joan's post, above, and go back and very carefully check the dimensions of my '63 F20.

Here they are with the Gator Case measurements in parentheses. .................

Upper Bout 10.5" ( 10.25" )

Lower Bout 13.75" ( 13.75" )

Waist 8.25" ( 9.75" )

Body Length 18" ( 19" )

Guitar Length 38.5" ( 38 " )

Depth 3.75" ( 4.75" )

Note a couple of little differences between Joan's M20 and my F20.

Conclusion: Not a lot of work to do " re-arranging " the padding BUT !! ..............

there's no overcoming that 1/2" discrepancy in body length vs case inner length measurement !

The red haze is coming up again !! :evil: :evil: :evil:

 

[GuildFS4612CE]

When you are talking about inner case measurement, is that with the padding compressed or not?

If not, then you are dealing with a 1/4 inch fit issue at each end...possible if the padding is squooshy enough.

Also, are you remembering to include the lower strap button in your calculations of guitar length?

 

[coastie99]

When you are talking about inner case measurement, is that with the padding compressed or not?

If not, then you are dealing with a 1/4 inch fit issue at each end...possible if the padding is squooshy enough.

Also, are you remembering to include the lower strap button in your calculations of guitar length?

Hi Jane.

Gator quotes " Guitar Style Dimensions." Presumably, that means uncompressed ??

No, I didn't include the lower strap button, which means an even more unsatisfactory fit !!

 

[jgmaute]

Good news, bad news !!
The NZ importer can get a 3/4 Gator Case for me. About $150.
Happy, happy, happy !!
I read Joan's post, above, and go back and very carefully check the dimensions of my '63 F20.
Here they are with the Gator Case measurements in parentheses. .................
Upper Bout 10.5" ( 10.25" )
Lower Bout 13.75" ( 13.75" )
Waist 8.25" ( 9.75" )
Body Length 18" ( 19" )
Guitar Length 38.5" ( 38 " )
Depth 3.75" ( 4.75" )
Note a couple of little differences between Joan's M20 and my F20.
Conclusion: Not a lot of work to do " re-arranging " the padding BUT !! ..............
there's no overcoming that 1/2" discrepancy in body length vs case inner length measurement !
The red haze is coming up again !! :evil: :evil: :evil:

Coastie, and Sandy: check out the specs on the Saga 0/Parlor case, (click for pdf of dimensions) the only problem I found was the depth which is 3.75 and my guitar is 4.25 on the lower bout at the endpin and 3 5/8 on the upper bout. It may work for your guitar and I'm going to call Randy today and have him call SAGA and see if the arch top will cover the extra .5" ... could happen! joan

btw...wouldn't it be interesting if SAGA ends up being the answer...seeing as my original thread was titled the saga of ...

 

[twocorgis]

Coastie, and Sandy: check out the specs on the Saga 0/Parlor case, (click for pdf of dimensions) the only problem I found was the depth which is 3.75 and my guitar is 4.25 on the lower bout at the endpin and 3 5/8 on the upper bout. It may work for your guitar and I'm going to call Randy today and have him call SAGA and see if the arch top will cover the extra .5" ... could happen! joan

btw...wouldn't it be interesting if SAGA ends up being the answer...seeing as my original thread was titled the saga of ...

Joan,

I get the feeling that this case will end up being a little too small. Correct me if I'm reading this wrong, but that 14 3/8" measurement at the lower bout is including 2" of cushioning, no? That would make it an inch and three quarters too small in that dimension alone and even more too small (how's that for proper english?) at the upper bout.

Damn...

 

[coastie99]

That's how I read it too, Two !

This ain't gonna be easy !!

 

[twocorgis]

That's how I read it too, Two !

Good. It's not just me!

This ain't gonna be easy !!

If it was easy, everybody would do it...Uh...wait, everybody is doing it. Well we're trying, anyway. :?

I personally plan on groveling at the feet of Frank Untermyer on behalf of the group during the question and answer at LMG later this month. See if that works. :wink:

 

[dapmdave]

http://orlando.craigslist.org/msg/1675036063.html

I tried to fit my D-30 into this case, but it was too small. Is this what ya'll are looking for?

Dave

 

[Bill Ashton]

That looks a lot like my GAD30PCE case...I will check those measurements.

 

[twocorgis]

http://orlando.craigslist.org/msg/1675036063.html

I tried to fit my D-30 into this case, but it was too small. Is this what ya'll are looking for?

Dave

I emailed them about the case on Sunday, and asked them to measure the lower bout if they could. Never got back to me.

 

[Bill Ashton]

Looking at that Craigslist case, it does seem to have slightly smaller proportions than my GAD30PCE case...

My guitar's measurements:

Overall length 41 7/16"
Upper bout ~11"
Body length 20 3/4" including heel
Lower bout 16"
Body depth at endpin 4 3/16"
Body depth at neck joint 3 9/16"

Case measurements:

Inside length 43"
Inside depth at endpin 4-4 1/8"
Padding depth is 3/4 to 1", not uniform
Case top 5/8 to 3/4" additional depth

Guitar does not fit tightly into the case.
There is about 1/2" slop over the length
There is about 1/2" slop where the guitar waist pinches
There is about 1/2" remaining between the case and headstock
when body is pushed towards top of case tight lengthwise.

When closed, and the case is shaken, there is no movement side
to side or top to bottom...you can feel some movement lengthwise
but not much.

 

[dapmdave]

I didn't measure it. I did try to get my D-30 into it, and while it would actually go in, it was extremely tight. Obviously made for a smaller guitar. The D-30 headstock actually deformed the top of the case outward a bit, and the body had to be forcibly shoved into the case to crush the lining enough to allow it to fit. The upper bout was the worst. I was thinking it might have fit an F-body, but it was just an observation.

And yeah, the guy isn't the best about communicating. But I could have taken it home for $20.

Dave

 

[Bill Ashton]

OK, I realize that I am slow on the uptake...

But would anything here work?

http://www.gbase.com/gear/gibson-fender ... s-assorted

 

[coastie99]

OK, I realize that I am slow on the uptake...

But would anything here work?

http://www.gbase.com/gear/gibson-fender ... s-assorted

Good spotting Bill.

This fellow's probably got several different cases that I'm looking for.
I have a problem that you lucky North Americans don't have ............. a US $150 + shipping charge to get a case to Newsyland !

 

[john_kidder]

UPDATE:

Finally got a chance to visit the woman in the music store who told me a few year ago about a custom case manufacturer. Turns out that she and her husband bought the case company, ran it for awhile, and sold the bits and pieces a year-and-a-half ago to a Vancouver guitar maker.

I've contacted the company to see if they still have the tooling/etc., and if they might be interested in an order for (say) 10 to 15 M-F20 cases. I'll keep you posted.