Why Guild’s 12-string design is one of the greatest engineering feats of the 20th century

[rg2002]

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[Boomstick]

Interesting article, but I question the writer's accuracy in saying that Jimmy Page played a Guild 12-string on "Over the Hills and Far Away". That's a pretty specifc claim with no evidence! I'm not really a Page expert, but I always understood him to have most likely played his Harmony Sovereign H1260 12-string on that song.

We've had a similar discussion about Page and Guild before with no definitive conclusion...

So, Jimmy Page had 2 F612s

New to me knowledge from a 5 watt world video on Jimmy Page's guitars. Probably yesterdays news to many of the long time forum guys.

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I was under the impression that he had retired his Harmony Soveirgns after Led Zeppelin III.

Plus he did do Guild ads as well.

 

[chazmo]

I was under the impression that he had retired his Harmony Soveirgns after Led Zeppelin III.

Plus he did do Guild ads as well.

Nice F-212XL in the pix. I actually didn't know Jimmy played that model.

 

[Boneman]

I dunno, that doesn’t resemble Jimmy Page in that ad, where does it say that’s Page?

 

[chazmo]

I dunno, that doesn’t resemble Jimmy Page in that ad, where does it say that’s Page?

Good point... Wonder who it'd be.

 

[wileypickett]

So blurry, it's hard to tell. Tim Buckley maybe?

 

[Boomstick]

I dunno, that doesn’t resemble Jimmy Page in that ad, where does it say that’s Page?

Maybe it is Tim Buckley. It's so low in pixels per inch I can't tell but was listed as Jimmy Page in the ebay ad I grabbed it from.

 

[5thumbs]

We had this discussion a while ago...

Here

I don't think we ever resolved it.

 

[chazmo]

I think it looks like Tim Buckley, and I'm going with that, Rick!

As I recall, Tim had at least one F-612. But, it's certainly possible that he had an F-212XL as well. Such wonderful guitars...

 

[Boneman]

Think you guys are correct:

 

[rg2002]

I could be wrong, but I think that clip of Tim Buckley is from the episode of The Monkees on which Frank Zappa appeared, and that the vehicle behind him is the smashed older car that FZ demolished while "Mother People" played in the background.

Here's the clip:

sorry to hijack this thread but I couldn't resist - plus FZ did own a Guild (not a 12-string)

 

[Zelja]

Boneman, I wouldn't advise medium gauge strings on your 12-string tuned to pitch. You're fine with light or extra lights.

I believe it's @awagner who tunes to pitch on his (longer-scale) F-612, but I don't think he's using med. gauge. In any case, I wouldn't advise it.

I think I must have had Mediums on my JF30-12 (only has 6 strings on it now but I need to change that soon), but mediums on a 12 are 12-52, not 13s, lights on a 6 string are 12-53 - a bit confusing!!

Might have to try different gauges on the 12. Already thinking that I should drop down from 13s to 12s on the 6 string guitars.

 

[Zelja]

Think you guys are correct:

This is such a great performance - my favourite version of the song.

 

[Boneman]

but mediums on a 12 are 12-52, not 13s, lights on a 6 string are 12-53 - a bit confusing!!

Ain’t that the truth lol

 

[Rob Reilly]

After I saw this performance of Leaving on a Jet Plane by John Denver, I was convinced I had to have a 12 string, and chose to buy my Guild F212XL.

A couple of years ago an F612 came up on Reverb, asking about $7000, and I hesitated about an hour, one click and it could have been mine, but by then it was gone.

 

[Cougar]

So blurry, it's hard to tell. Tim Buckley maybe?

Yeah, I thought it was Tim Buckley.

 

[Greg Feo]

Tom Petty joined the ranks long ago with his D-212Ms, had 2! Worthy of his own LTG thread here somewhere. Peace

 

[walrus]

Tom Petty joined the ranks long ago with his D-212Ms, had 2! Worthy of his own LTG thread here somewhere. Peace

BTW, I don't think I've ever seen that before - a soundhole cover and a soundhole pickup used together...

 

[SL50045]

I was told by a retired Guild employee that the F612 were made in a total of 3 batches, 6 guitars in each batch for a total of 18 manufactured. The scale length is 26.5.

 

[chazmo]

I was told by a retired Guild employee that the F612 were made in a total of 3 batches, 6 guitars in each batch for a total of 18 manufactured. The scale length is 26.5.

I doubt those production numbers are correct, SL50045. I suspect there were quite a few more. But, yes, scale length is correct.