Hard Shell Case for P-240?

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Has anyone owning a P-240 Memoir managed to find a hard shell case for it?

If you have, please tell me where. Thx.

I just bought one.

Some people here in other threads have asked about or discussed the guitar, so I will offer my review of the one I now own, along with some general thoughts.

It is an oddity in many ways, and there really is not a great deal of traditional Guildiness about it.. The head stock logo is non-traditional, I think. The P-240 is marketed as a parlor guitar (new territory for Guild?), but it is much larger than a standard parlor. The dimensions and body shape are most unusual – good luck finding a hard shell case for it – some Single-O cases might work, but you wouldn’t know for sure until you tried putting the P-240 in. The neck is unusual, too. It is quite a broad C shape, and it is bit chunky (I like chunky). The heel of the neck where it meets the body is not very pronounced, which is a boon for access to frets past the 12th. The strings are quite widely spaced – nice for finger picking. The light weight and light feel of the guitar puts it in the company things like Larrivees for feel rather than with the traditionally heavier Guilds. If you were blindfolded, handed the guitar and asked to guess what it was, Guild would not immediately spring to mind – budget Taylor or Breedlove models maybe – Guild? ... hmmm ... not so much. It has a lovely bright, clear, and loud simple voice with none of the darker but clear toned complexity that I love in solid mahogany sides-and-back smaller body Guilds. It is something entirely different – something quite delightful in its own idiosyncratic way.

The general build quality seems excellent. Looking inside with a snake light and inspection mirror, I see nothing alarming, nothing of any concern at all. Most things about it look very nice.

As for playing experience, the off-the-rack action is medium/low with a reasonable amount of camber in the neck, not too much, not too little – prefect for my tastes – no need for further setup for me. The effort in fretting is fairly consistent along the whole neck – pretty easy. There are no real dead spots or wolf-tones anywhere on the neck – and no fret buzz or rattle anywhere, well ... anywhere where you would normally play. Yes, some notes do not articulate quite as nicely or quite as brightly as others but not so as you would notice them if you were just playing and not consciously looking for them by going up the neck on each string fret by fret – they certainly don’t advertise themselves while playing. Overall the tone is quite consistently good across and along the fret board. The big weakness of the guitar is in the bass which is not surprising for a parlor. With the open E 6th, for example, you don’t get a really strong sense of the fundamental tone – all the harmonics are there bright and true but the fundamental is a little weak, and there is just a bit of a boxy quality to the sound here – not unusual for a parlor. It might be better with medium gauge strings rather than the light gauge ones it ships with -- or with a custom set with a heavier bottom end. And in drop-D tuning, the sixth string does not offer a lot of tension over the guitar’s scale length, and so it is easy to sharpen notes a little accidentally if you fret too heavily (not a problem in standard tuning, though) – again ... heavier strings might be better.

Now on to issues -- there are some issues but none entirely serious. The top on mine is not cosmetically the best. It is definitely not unattractive – just not as pretty as I would like, but I only had a choice of one P-240. Notes on the E 1st string, from about the 10th fret up, can sound a very tiny bit crunchy (not buzzy or rattling) if you are not careful with attack, and the last two frets on the high E string, those way out on the top of the guitar both sound the same note, both with a bit of buzz/fuzz. Also the compensated bridge saddle is very crudely fashioned with rough, sloppy, hurried-looking file work, but the intonation is bang-on perfect at the 12th fret on every string – not a bit out even when checked with a higher-end orchestral tuner, and the radius on the saddle is perfect, too. The saddle just isn’t pretty. The stock Guild branded tuners seem to hold tune well enough once the guitar is acclimatized and the strings are settled, but fine tuning with them is a bit more effort - adjustment/readjustment – over/under – over/under - than should be necessary. Grovers Sta-Tites might be in order if I am feeling cheap or Wilkersons, Schallers, or Rubners if I am feeling extravagant.

Overall, IMHO, it is a brilliant piece of work, especially for a $499 street-priced, off-shore-made guitar with plywood sides and back.
 

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One more observation.

The sound hole on the P-240 is smaller than what might be viewed as "standard."

The smaller size means that a lot of sound hole pickups won't fit without some dismantling of the pickup. My Sunrise, Seymour Duncan (MagMic), and L.L. Baggs pickups won't fit without removing one of the clamping pieces that secure the pickup to the top. I had to make a tool out of a piece of plastic coated coat hanger and some scotch tape to hold the clamping piece in place while I fished around trying to get the screw threaded. The installation is awkward and frustrating but doable.

The clamping piece would need to be removed to get the pickup out again, too, say if a battery were installed inside the guitar's body and needed to be replaced. Then it would be back with the special coat hanger tool to get the pickup back in. The novelty of this could quickly wear off.

Still looking for a case.
 

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The head stock logo is non-traditional, I think.
Welcome to LTG! The script logo is a tradiional Guild logo and was used in various variations from the 50ies until today.

1957 M-75 and a 1958 M-20:

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1999 Paloma and a 2005 Tacoma made CV-2:
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2013/2014 Ren Ferguson's famous Orpheum models made in New Hartford:

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The P-240 Memoir:

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Regarding a case: Check out the Gator GWE-Acou-3/4 Case, you need to compare the dimensions however, the specs are give on their page:


Ralf
 
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@ Ralf

Thank you for the reply.

The head stock logo pics are very cool. Thank you for the information.

With regards to finding a case, I was not clear enough. There is no problem in finding a case that the guitar will fit in. There are many cases that are too large for it - they would leave guitar poorly supported unless you made some custom cushions to keep it from rattling around. Manufacturer's "choose-a-case-by-guitar-dimensions wizards " present any number of these oversized cases. There are also many cases that are too small for it, just ever so too small - very close but just a little too tight or a little too short or too shallow. The closest thing I have seen to something that might be a good fit is a Recording King Single O case. The concern with this case, though, is that placements for the waist bouts for the Recording King and the P-240 look very different. And the Recording King case is pricey, and there seems to be no stock of the case anywhere. I have also seen a custom order case for a luthier-made replica of a 19th Century Romantic guitar that might fit, but this is very seriously expensive kit.

At the moment I have two gig bags that sort of work on the P-240, one is a bit too snug for depth, the other is a little too big while still being a little snug for depth..

The problem is finding a case that fits the guitar well - LOL.

I may end up making a box or coffin case for it. Well ... maybe ... if I get motivated enough.
 

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Thanks, Ralf.

Yes. Classical cases, like the Thomas Music one, come close - The Thomas Music one is a nice looking, inexpensive case, BTW but it is in the UK. The P-240 fits in my Larrivee classical case. It is a reasonable fit for overall length and a very good fit for body depth and neck support, but the body cavity of the case is too big - a little too long and a little too loose for the P-240.

I suppose a cost effective option might be to buy a decent used classical case and take it to a custom upholstery shop and get them to redo the body cavity with custom cut high density foam. Matching the case plush over the new foam might be a problem, but at this point, who cares? It would be a cheaper and less troublesome option than making a case.
 
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In addition to the Recording King Single O case, the Single O cases from TKL and Guardian also might work. The TKL case is pricey even at its current sale price of %50 off. It is also a little short on head room with its internal length only 1/4" longer than the overall length of the P-240. The Guardian case is inexpensive, but the body fit looks a little looser, but it is probably good enough to provide support. Both cases may have issues with where the waist bout is on the P-240. And being Single O cases, speciality items with low stock turn-over , they are unlikely to be found in a local brick and mortar store where try can come before buy.
 
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Greetings,

For my p-240 memoir, I got the “TKL Premier 0-style Tenor / GS Mini style hard case” (TKL 7876).

I looked up all of the recommendations that were listed on this page and compared all of the specs. This one case had the closest specs out of all the cases. The only thing that was the body length of the Memoir was 1/8 inch (3.175 mm) larger than the cases inside body length. So the only issues is at the bottom edge of the lower bout. The shoulder strap button of the guitar at the end gets caught at the edge but the plush lining of the case can be gently pulled away to clear the it. Also, the bottom edge of guitar sits a little high. But still able to close the lid with no issues. Really though, these issues are so minor. I am very pleased with this case. High quality TKL product. As you can see from the picture, the case is very well conformed to the guitar.

Very fun fingerpicking guitar! It’s hard to put down. Sounds amazing at a great price.
 

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Greetings,

For my p-240 memoir, I got the “TKL Premier 0-style Tenor / GS Mini style hard case” (TKL 7876).

I looked up all of the recommendations that were listed on this page and compared all of the specs. This one case had the closest specs out of all the cases. The only thing that was the body length of the Memoir was 1/8 inch (3.175 mm) larger than the cases inside body length. So the only issues is at the bottom edge of the lower bout. The shoulder strap button of the guitar at the end gets caught at the edge but the plush lining of the case can be gently pulled away to clear the it. Also, the bottom edge of guitar sits a little high. But still able to close the lid with no issues. Really though, these issues are so minor. I am very pleased with this case. High quality TKL product. As you can see from the picture, the case is very well conformed to the guitar.

Thanks.

Mine now lives mostly in a 7/8th to full scale Cordoba gig bag - ACCASIB-03543. The fit is a little snug in some dimensions but it works well enough.



It also sort of fits in my classical guitar case, although just a little loosely in the body. I have been looking at used classical cases with an eye to modifying the body padding.

Very fun fingerpicking guitar! It’s hard to put down. Sounds amazing at a great price.

Indeed! Indeed!

My F-30 is jealous of the time I spend with the P-240 Memoir.
 
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