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[walrus]

Hey! John Paul Jones is 78 today!

"Shibuya Bop" from his solo album "The Thunderchief". A great album BTW!

 

[Harp Tail]

Hey! John Paul Jones is 78 today!

"Shibuya Bop" from his solo album "The Thunderchief". A great album BTW!

Happy birthday John Baldwin! I barely know that album, but I believe JPJ does some fun stuff with an eight string on at least one track.

 

[DrumBob]

It was a tune Page got from Jake Holmes, and then wrote an expansive 6 part arrangement around the initial theme. The Yardbirds never thought of touching it until Page was at the helm and made it his showcase piece compete w/ violin bow segment. Sure, Page was IN the Yardbirds at the time, but it was all his doing.

Whatever you say. I guess you were there and saw the whole thing happen, right? You were part of The Yardbirds inner circle in 1968? Jimmy Page is a personal friend?

 

[Bernie]

Not saying it originated w/ Page….just that it wasn’t something the Yardbirds would have ever covered. It was purely Page that put it in their set list in their final year . As for arrangement of the piece Page finalized, about 3 minutes of it can be attributed directly to Jake Holmes, the other 10 min (and in Zep’s case 20-30 min) was all Page. Holmes got paid a pretty penny for it…plus partial credit.

There are other direct influences in Page’s arrangement as well. Namely Gustav Holst, Mars: The bringer of war, from his orchestral suite The Planets.

No credit allowed to Jake Holmes on my copy of 'Led Zeppelin'. Willy Dixon got credited for 2 numbers (You Shook Me, and I Can't Quit You Baby nevertheless)...

 

[Midnight Toker]

No credit allowed to Jake Holmes on my copy of 'Led Zeppelin'. Willy Dixon got credited for 2 numbers (You Shook Me, and I Can't Quit You Baby nevertheless)...

Not on the original album or the original Song are mains The Same soundtrack, but on compilations and reissues since, the credits are “Jimmy Page (Inspired by Jake Holmes)” , which I’m sure has been Holmes’ biggest musical career earner.

Led Zeppelin (album) - Wikipedia

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[Midnight Toker]

Whatever you say. I guess you were there and saw the whole thing happen, right? You were part of The Yardbirds inner circle in 1968? Jimmy Page is a personal friend?

No, I’m just a die hard fan and avid collector of all things Zep for the last 45 years. Think of the members here that have a warehouse of all things Guild. That’s me w/ Zep. I’ve had several pieces of my collection photographed and credited in official Zep deluxe boxed set companion books. I have over 250 live recordings, several that have never been heard by the general public. I have original print ads and show posters dating back to the “New Yardbirds” era of 68. I own every known tour program, Rare promotional items, in store album displays (inflatable blimps, mobiles, 3d counter displays, etc) Albums and 45’s from numerous countries. Several autographed items, 100’s of magazines w/ Zep on the cover and close to 100 books on Zep, framed unpublished pics taken by (and signed by) notable rock photographers, etc. My entire basement is a veritable Zep museum. All likely over 100k worth. (And it’s just a drop in the hat compared to a few collectors I know that own and display authentic stage worn clothes and instruments, original signed contracts and tour itineraries among many one of a kind items…and even own motorcycles and cars once owned by John Bonham! There’s a guy in Arlington Va that likely has a million dollars into his collection.)

I know a little bit about this band. (Probably more than Page himself can even remember!)

 

[jp]

No, I’m just a die hard fan and avid collector of all things Zep for the last 45 years. Think of the members here that have a warehouse of all things Guild. That’s me w/ Zep. I’ve had several pieces of my collection photographed and credited in official Zep deluxe boxed set companion books. I have over 250 live recordings, several that have never been heard by the general public. I have original print ads and show posters dating back to the “New Yardbirds” era of 68. I own every known tour program, Rare promotional items, in store album displays (inflatable blimps, mobiles, 3d counter displays, etc) Albums and 45’s from numerous countries. Several autographed items, 100’s of magazines w/ Zep on the cover and close to 100 books on Zep, framed unpublished pics taken by (and signed by) notable rock photographers, etc. My entire basement is a veritable Zep museum. All likely over 100k worth. (And it’s just a drop in the hat compared to a few collectors I know that own and display authentic stage worn clothes and instruments, original signed contracts and tour itineraries among many one of a kind items…and even own motorcycles and cars once owned by John Bonham! There’s a guy in Arlington Va that likely has a million dollars into his collection.)

I know a little bit about this band. (Probably more than Page himself can even remember!)

I had a workmate who was this way with Kiss. Her apartment was a museum with life-size cutouts, walls of recordings, the kiss pinball machine, Gene Simmons boots, and a pair of Ace Frehley's leather pants in an acrylic display box. It was impressive.

I'm more in the Led Zep fan bleacher.

 

[Bernie]

Hey I've got a couple of Led Zeppelin's albums to sell now for your collection ('Jimmy the Crook', and 'After Ten Years With Zep') : special issues relating how a man called Jim ended up retiring after some years in a famous British group...(while still making lots of money from it ...).

 

[mavuser]

I've always like Led Zep, was pretty hard core into them when I was growing up (they were already "classic rock" by then). Seen Jimmy Page and the Black Crowes twice, and Plant with Alison Krause once. Those Page/Crowes shows were wild!! Anyway, I listened to them so much for so long, that I drifted in other directions for a good long while. recently I have been revisiting Zep though, and really digging hard on Presence. what a criminally underrated album.

 

[Harp Tail]

I've always like Led Zep, was pretty hard core into them when I was growing up (they were already "classic rock" by then). Seen Jimmy Page and the Black Crowes twice, and Plant with Alison Krause once. Those Page/Crowes shows were wild!! Anyway, I listened to them so much for so long, that I drifted in other directions for a good long while. recently I have been revisiting Zep though, and really digging hard on Presence. what a criminally underrated album.

Exactly! Most die hard Zeppers disdain Presence but I always thought it remarkable and thoroughly enjoyable.

 

[Bernie]

Does anybody know what that photograph is (Jimmy Page as a child with his family maybe ?)

 

[walrus]

Does anybody know what that photograph is (Jimmy Page as a child with his family maybe ?)

I'm prertty sure they are random people or models of some kind. The photos for "Persence" have to do with "The Object" in each one.

What Led Zeppelin Was Thinking With the 'Bizarre' 'Presence' Album Cover

Led Zeppelin put out some odd album covers over the years, but 'Presence' set a new standard. Here's what the band had in mind.

www.cheatsheet.com

 

[Midnight Toker]

I'm prertty sure they are random people or models of some kind. The photos for "Persence" have to do with "The Object" in each one.

What Led Zeppelin Was Thinking With the 'Bizarre' 'Presence' Album Cover

Led Zeppelin put out some odd album covers over the years, but 'Presence' set a new standard. Here's what the band had in mind.

www.cheatsheet.com

Album cover art gurus from Hipgnosis were hired once again to come up w/ the cover for Presence. They presented Page w/ the idea of a Kubrick 2001 type obelisk put into several everyday settings. It was Page that asked for the obelisk to not be too square and to have some slight angles and twists to it. The front cover was set during a London indoor boat show….to attempt to recreate a photo Hipgnosis saw in the Aug 1965 issue of National Geographic depicting a family eating at a window table at Tarentino’s restaurant at Fisherman’s Wharf, San Francisco.

Here’s a pic of my copy.

 

[mavuser]

Album cover art gurus from Hipgnosis were hired once again to come up w/ the cover for Presence. They presented Page w/ the idea of a Kubrick 2001 type obelisk put into several everyday settings. It was Page that asked for the obelisk to not be too square and to have some slight angles and twists to it. The front cover was set during a London indoor boat show….to attempt to recreate a photo Hipgnosis saw in the Aug 1965 issue of National Geographic depicting a family eating at a window table at Tarentino’s restaurant at Fisherman’s Wharf, San Francisco.

Here’s a pic of my copy.

man, u really know ur sh!t!

 

[Midnight Toker]

^That Nat Geo mag took me 5 min and under $5 to track down on eBay.

This one was a bit tougher…
The 1980 Tour Over Europe poster….


And the magazine it’s image originated from…
Picture Post Magazine (the UK’s equivalent of Life Magazine) from May 1939. It took me over 6 years and over $200 (w/shipping) to find a copy in semi decent shape! (I wound up having to buy a bundle of every issue from 1939!! Ugh!)

 

[DrumBob]

No, I’m just a die hard fan and avid collector of all things Zep for the last 45 years. Think of the members here that have a warehouse of all things Guild. That’s me w/ Zep. I’ve had several pieces of my collection photographed and credited in official Zep deluxe boxed set companion books. I have over 250 live recordings, several that have never been heard by the general public. I have original print ads and show posters dating back to the “New Yardbirds” era of 68. I own every known tour program, Rare promotional items, in store album displays (inflatable blimps, mobiles, 3d counter displays, etc) Albums and 45’s from numerous countries. Several autographed items, 100’s of magazines w/ Zep on the cover and close to 100 books on Zep, framed unpublished pics taken by (and signed by) notable rock photographers, etc. My entire basement is a veritable Zep museum. All likely over 100k worth. (And it’s just a drop in the hat compared to a few collectors I know that own and display authentic stage worn clothes and instruments, original signed contracts and tour itineraries among many one of a kind items…and even own motorcycles and cars once owned by John Bonham! There’s a guy in Arlington Va that likely has a million dollars into his collection.)

I know a little bit about this band. (Probably more than Page himself can even remember!)

I saw Led Zeppelin at the Fillmore East, the very first show they played in NYC, as an opening act for Iron Butterfly. They blew them off the face of the earth. Butterfly came out and played all their songs too fast.

 

[Midnight Toker]

I saw Led Zeppelin at the Fillmore East, the very first show they played in NYC, as an opening act for Iron Butterfly. They blew them off the face of the earth. Butterfly came out and played all their songs too fast.

I’ve heard you mention it before in another thread. I am truly jealous! That must have been mind blowing to see them when they themselves were just 19-23 yr olds!!

In case you didn’t save yours, here are both Fillmore East handbills. (one from your show, the other from when they returned in late May)





Here is some video…


And the full show….

 

[DrumBob]

I was also at the May Fillmore show with my girlfriend of the time. I don't think Delaney & Bonnie were on the bill. I seem to remember a local band opening. LZ went from being a supporting act to headliners quickly. I also saw them out in Forest Hills Queens, and at Wollman Rink in Central Park, the night they had B.B. King opening for them. The tickets were so cheap, we went to both shows!

The British band, The Move, was supposed to be the opening act on the January show, but they cut their tour short and went home, so we had Porter's Popular Preachers instead, a black gospel group who were completely forgettable. Bill Graham made a bad call on that one.

There were also shows we saw at Madison Square Garden. I was there the night the audience got onstage somehow (I don't know how security allowed that), and the front part of the stage collapsed. I remember a Garden show where they played "Stairway" and none of us had ever heard it before. Of course, we were blown away.

All in all, we saw LZ thirteen times, more than any other band.

 

[walrus]

I’ve heard you mention it before in another thread. I am truly jealous! That must have been mind blowing to see them when they themselves were just 19-23 yr olds!!

In case you didn’t save yours, here are both Fillmore East handbills. (one from your show, the other from when they returned in late May)





Here is some video…


And the full show….

Led Zeppelin and Woody Herman on the same bill?!

 

[adorshki]

Led Zeppelin and Woody Herman on the same bill?!

That Bill Graham was a big believer in diversity, and a great little kidder, too.

BJ WIlson was Page's first choice for a drummer for "the Zep", but having just scored a hit with "Whiter Shade of Pale", Wilson decided to stick with what looked like a sure thing. Not that he wouldn't have done quite well for 'em, thank you, young Mr. Trower's presence being an added plus: