guitardude said:JimbowF212 said:guitardude said:...and of course a Martin or a Gibson can't take the sort of punishment that a Guild can.
Any instrument is not supposed to be abused nor have to take punishment. Would you take a Stienway piano and put it in the middle of a battle field? I think not so why would you take a fine guitar, no matter who made it and put it in one. BTW Martins will take punishment with the Best OF 'EM Ask Tony Rice or any one else who have taken a Martin on the road. Now Gibson, Well.......... :mrgreen:
Hi Jim,
Quite correct, but you do seem to find a lot more battered Guilds than you do Martins. As you know Martins a lot lighter constructed than Guilds, perhaps the beater Martins have all destructed over time only leaving the Guilds ? Survival of the fittest and all that...
Of course old Martins are now seen as valuable, not sure if that was always the case ? As for Martins taking punishment with the best of them, well Peter Rowans D18 didn't fare too well did it !!
Cheers, Ian
guitardude said:Hi Jim,
Quite why you would entrust an expesive vintage Martin to the vagaries of the baggage handlers instead of just paying for another seat kind of baffles me though...
Cheers, Ian
yoffer said:@ Jerry im in Staffordshire, unfortunately a bit to far away from you for jam
JerryR said:yoffer said:@ Jerry im in Staffordshire, unfortunately a bit to far away from you for jam
Ah - perhaps one day I'll find a local fellow Guildite had to go all the way to Texas for my last Guild jam session
Tony,TonyT said:Maybe the reason that the used Guilds are in such poor shape is that no one wants to get rid of theirs until its nearly dead.
I've never owned a Martin, so I can't really compare... but there are a lot of posts on UMGF about neck resets on guitars that are no older than my Guilds. And I have seem some early Guilds that are in good a shape as comparably-aged Martins and Gibsons...Taylor Martin Guild said:So for those of you that have owned or do own 80's Guilds AND Martins,
do you see any difference in how they are holding up?
I think it may be true that Guild necks were underset during some years... certainly the (original) bridges on my early Guilds started out lower than on my later Guilds (by as much as 1/16"-1/8"). As for checking... only one of my Guilds is severely checked... my '92 D-55. Presumably as a result of shippng thru a -10F NY blizzard in the deep of winter. My D-46 has a couple checks... others are pretty clean, as far as checking goes. Although I am certainly responsible for many dings and dents on my D-35 (as are my college roomates, kids, etc), I have never had a guitar crack/split on my watch... and may get thru my lifetime w/o ever having a neck reset (but maybe not).Taylor Martin Guild said:As far as Guilds go,
so far I see a tendency that the necks can be a bit of a problem and finish checking is very common.
I would think that finish checking may be dur to the type of lacquer used by Guild.
I can only speak for myself, but I certainly abused my first Guild... I didn't know any better. Used to take it out camping in the S. CA and UT desert... thought it would be safer locked in the car than sitting unattended in a tent. Took it camping in the mtns of OR, CA, and UT summer and fall... where it surely cooled below freezing some nights. I never even considered that humidity (or lack thereof) could be a problem. Don't know if it wouldn't have been any different if I had a Martin... because I couldn't afford a Martin when I was 17.Taylor Martin Guild said:Another conclusion:
Guild owners may not take the best care of their guitars because that are not as expensive as Martins.
"Made to be played!" and play 'em I will!Taylor Martin Guild said:Is this the consensus here?
Taylor Martin Guild said:Another conclusion:
Guild owners may not take the best care of their guitars because that are not as expensive as Martins.
Is this the consensus here?
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