NGD Thursday: Oxnard D-20!

[kakerlak]

Maybe the D-25 (if ever there is one) would be the full gloss model?

 

[adorshki]

Thanks for reposting the chart, Al. I was looking for it and when I saw you posted it .... it was a huge relief!! :encouragement:

Aw shucks...you're always so mellow after they adjust your meds..:friendly_wink:

 

[bobouz]

So if you see a TRC, it's an American made Guild.

A reminder that Guilds made in Mexico also have truss rod covers.

And Jesse, if my post on the Gibson forum helped push you towards Guild again, I'll happily take credit! Btw: if for any reason you don't bond with the neck width, give the M-20 a chance, since it checks in at 1.75". Smaller bodied guitars can be sooooo sweet!

 

[Jesse_Dylan]

A reminder that Guilds made in Mexico also have truss rod covers.

And Jesse, if my post on the Gibson forum helped push you towards Guild again, I'll happily take credit! Btw: if for any reason you don't bond with the neck width, give the M-20 a chance, since it checks in at 1.75". Smaller bodied guitars can be sooooo sweet!

I'm pretty sure it was you! If you hadn't mentioned the D-20, I might have ended up with a Martin D-15 or something along those lines, which would be fine, but my heart is with the Guild I think. I didn't even know they were doing a D-20 (which is a good move). I thought it was just the M-20, and I was happy for them but not super interested. It's a real shame Fender shut down New Hartford, but I guess they wanted to focus on the import business. I'm thankful Cordoba had other plans.

However, if the neck doesn't work, I may have to try one of the LA Guitar Sales special order OM-15Ms... or... look into the cutaway/electric DC-15M or 000C-15M (eek!) for their 1-3/4". I had an M-120 for a while that didn't impress me, but I know there is probably quite a difference between at 2009 M-120 and a 2016 refreshed USA M-20.

But truthfully, I think I've just been a baby and the 1-11/16" will work just fine for me. They worked fine for me for years til I discovered 1-3/4"! And the Gibson necks are fine for me, too.

Hopefully I'll be finding out in a few hours...

 

[chazmo]

tick, tick, tick, Jesse!

 

[jcwu]

So if you see a TRC, it's a North American made Guild.

A reminder that Guilds made in Mexico also have truss rod covers.

Corrected original quote for you, Tom.

 

[davismanLV]

A reminder that Guilds made in Mexico also have truss rod covers.

Whoops!! True, that. I forgets sometimes about the MIM Guilds.

Al, my meds are always flawlessly adjusted. I think I took some this morning..... maybe.

 

[Westerly Wood]

I wonder why thet didn't call it a D-25. It looks just like my Westerly D-25 looked new.

Exactly. My preference as well. That being said, my guess is they really wanted to follow Westerly beginnings and first launch the M20. Since the D20 would be same tonewoods, they figured best to call it a D20.

 

[Jesse_Dylan]

It fits with their new structuring too where "20" means all mahogany. Just wait til they release an F-20 and call it an OM-20! I have never understood why F sometimes meant Jumbo and sometimes meant OM.

Well, I saw the FedEx truck go east. This was 30+ minutes ago. I postponed everything I was doing, but I'm getting impatient! It doesn't need a signature, but I'm still paranoid he won't leave it without one. I have the garage door open, and it would only be attended for a few minutes, so maybe I should just get on with things. NGD is hard!

 

[bobouz]

NGD is hard!

Yes indeed!

Just went through that last week. Found myself pacing around the house, with one ear glued toward any vehicular sound emanating from the driveway. The wait can be a bit maddening..... but it will most certainly come, and here's hoping it's a winner!

 

[davismanLV]

Corrected original quote for you, Tom.

Thanks, JC!! I guess I think in general terms like "the Americas" or something. That and I forgets..... appreciate it amigo!!

 

[Slinky]

I thought Guild wasn't going to be allowed to put "made in USA" on these guitars made in California?

 

[Rayk]

I thought Guild wasn't going to be allowed to put "made in USA" on these guitars made in California?

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat?

 

[adorshki]

I thought Guild wasn't going to be allowed to put "made in USA" on these guitars made in California?

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat?

Right.
In California the state takes precedence over the federal republic in labeling rights.
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:highly_amused:

Seriously though, when it came up a while back, I think it was in regard to whether the MIC Instruments were actually marked that way.
That led to a Wiki search about "Country of Origin" label rules in the US which also led to what qualified to be labeled "Made in USA".
I think that was spun-off in different thread and I seem to recall the issue was "Domestic Content", and due to the high percentage of imported woods and probably the machine heads as well, it doesn't qualify to be labeled "MADE in USA" although it can be labeled "CRAFTED in Corona CA (or Tacoma WA or New Hartford CT), USA", as they've actually done ever since Corona.
I honestly don't think it was ever completely answered in that old thread, but it occurred to me, that may be why they started using "Crafted" on Corona labels.
For an example: My 2 year old GE refrigerator is about 99 (if not 100)% foreign components, but the label inside it reads "Assembled in USA",
As I like to say, "Read between those lines."

 

[Rayk]

Never thought that would apply nor has it crossed my mind . Very interesting . I don't get the tooling part but who am I to say .

So ... Hand crafted by machine from parts world wide assembled in California .

Limited life time warranty on USA parts . Lol

 

[adorshki]

Al, my meds are always flawlessly adjusted. I think I took some this morning..... maybe.

Way back in the '60's they came up with this novel little contraption to help one keep track:

Of course, you'd want your own meds in there and you'd need to keep it somewhere you were sure to visit at least once a day.
The humidifier? The liquor cabinet?

It fits with their new structuring too where "20" means all mahogany. Just wait til they release an F-20 and call it an OM-20! I have never understood why F sometimes meant Jumbo and sometimes meant OM.

W-e-e-l-l...You're right a new F20 would be called an OM-20, but back in the day when they started, there were no dreadnaughts so the body size was called out by the number: F50, F40, F30, and F20, in descending order of size.
And it kept 'em from simply aping Martin's system, and they weren't identical sizes in any case, and they all had the typical pinched waist of "parlor" guitars of any size.

It doesn't need a signature, but I'm still paranoid he won't leave it without one. I have the garage door open, and it would only be attended for a few minutes, so maybe I should just get on with things. NGD is hard!

'At's why I wear a catheter anytime I'm expecting a delivery, just in case they come a-knockin' at the worst possible moment....or sometimes I just put a note on the door.
Whatever's medically expedient.

 

[adorshki]

So ... Hand crafted by machine from parts world wide assembled in California .
Limited life time warranty on USA parts . Lol

Yeah and we think they don't want to put "Oxnard" on the label because it just don't sound pretty.
In fact it sounds like what they call "prairie oysters" in cattle country.
Which reminds me, Jesse, I couldn't find a pic of the new label, I'd bet that'd be of interest to at least a few of us, thanks!

 

[Rayk]

Lol I don't know if Oxnard became a household name might not be so bad I'll it over Gaaad lol

 

[davismanLV]

Growing up with Oxnard as my neighbor and knowing how beautiful it can be at the harbor and everything..... I never give it a second thought. But it is a name that sounds like something you wouldn't want on a plate or anything even nearby......

 

[jeffcoop]

Way back in the '60's they came up with this novel little contraption to help one keep track:

Of course, you'd want your own meds in there and you'd need to keep it somewhere you were sure to visit at least once a day.
The humidifier? The liquor cabinet?


W-e-e-l-l...You're right a new F20 would be called an OM-20, but back in the day when they started, there were no dreadnaughts so the body size was called out by the number: F50, F40, F30, and F20, in descending order of size.
And it kept 'em from simply aping Martin's system, and they weren't identical sizes in any case, and they all had the typical pinched waist of "parlor" guitars of any size.


'At's why I wear a catheter anytime I'm expecting a delivery, just in case they come a-knockin' at the worst possible moment....or sometimes I just put a note on the door.
Whatever's medically expedient.

Actually, a new F20 would be called an M40 (concert size, spruce/mahogany), wouldn't it? And a new F30 would be either an OM40 (spruce/mahogany) or OM50 (spruce/rosewood), depending on the body wood. And, just to make things more confusing, a new M30 would be an OM20. Right?

Just occurred to m (and apologies for the veer): the F40 and F47 have no place in the new naming scheme, as they are neither concert, orchestra, dreadnought, nor jumbo. Either there will need to be an added designation for grand orchestra, or these models are dead!

The mind wanders while waiting for Jesse tor report back ....