Questions about a "New" 2007 F-47m

[valleyguy]

I chose the D 50 because I prefer the sound of a dred over the sound of an OM, though or remember I really did like its sound. At the time I was doing more strumming interspersed with some flat picking to play along with my singing. Don’t know what style you play, but if it’s fingerpicking, or individual string playing, the F47 is the better choice. Strumming, I find the smaller body has too much going on for the small body, for that a dred or jumbo is better.

I wish I was close enough to go play it for you. What are you looking for? what guitars do you have, your sig only shows years…

 

[E-Type]

Cali Vintage gave me some measurements. The low E action is at 8/64”. I like my acoustics at 5/64”, so I’d have to take 3/32” off the saddle. I’m feel like that might be taking it as far as it can go. I already have one reset candidate at home, I can’t have another. Ug.

 

[E-Type]

I chose the D 50 because I prefer the sound of a dred over the sound of an OM, though or remember I really did like its sound. At the time I was doing more strumming interspersed with some flat picking to play along with my singing. Don’t know what style you play, but if it’s fingerpicking, or individual string playing, the F47 is the better choice. Strumming, I find the smaller body has too much going on for the small body, for that a dred or jumbo is better.

I wish I was close enough to go play it for you. What are you looking for? what guitars do you have, your sig only shows years…

I’m the strummer/singer in the band. Wilco, SonVolt, Neil Young, Old 97’s, etc. I do some fingerstyle patterns in lieu of strumming and some mini flat picking solos, but mainly strumming.

 

[adorshki]

I’m the strummer/singer in the band. Wilco, SonVolt, Neil Young, Old 97’s, etc. I do some fingerstyle patterns in lieu of strumming and some mini flat picking solos, but mainly strumming.

Hate to say it but I think the D40'd be a better tool for that job, even as much as I love F47's on general principle. I'd still want to know how tall that saddle actually is and what the relief's at to get a true idea of that action eight. and a neck alignment check to determine wether it's truly close to needing reset or simply not set up very well, or set up to allow for lowering as was customary.

All 3 of mine came out of the box at Guild's spec action height though, 5.5-6/64ths which some already consider "high".

Btw, @valleyguy : The years in E-type's sig are the production periods at the various factories.

 

[Rayk]

Cali Vintage gave me some measurements. The low E action is at 8/64”. I like my acoustics at 5/64”, so I’d have to take 3/32” off the saddle. I’m feel like that might be taking it as far as it can go. I already have one reset candidate at home, I can’t have another. Ug.

Ask them to put a straight edge on it .

 

[E-Type]

I chose the D 50 because I prefer the sound of a dred over the sound of an OM, though or remember I really did like its sound. At the time I was doing more strumming interspersed with some flat picking to play along with my singing. Don’t know what style you play, but if it’s fingerpicking, or individual string playing, the F47 is the better choice. Strumming, I find the smaller body has too much going on for the small body, for that a dred or jumbo is better.

I wish I was close enough to go play it for you. What are you looking for? what guitars do you have, your sig only shows years…

I put the years of Guild prod at each site in my dig simply because it comes up a lot and I was tired of looking it up.

I have a ‘70 flatback all mahogany D-25 and a ‘74 arch back D-25.

 

[E-Type]

Hate to say it but I think the D40'd be a better tool for that job, even as much as I love F47's on general principle. I'd still want to know how tall that saddle actually is and what the relief's at to get a true idea of that action eight. and a neck alignment check to determine wether it's truly close to needing reset or simply not set up very well, or set up to allow for lowering as was customary.

All 3 of mine came out of the box at Guild's spec action height though, 5.5-6/64ths which some already consider "high".

Btw, @valleyguy : The years in E-type's sig are the production periods at the various factories.

I know you’re right, but I was also looking for a bit of variety (I have two ‘70s D-25). Plus, if playing with a pickup and through a PA, I’m not sure the body style matters as much.

 

[schoolie]

The bridge might be tall, and if so you might have some room to expose more saddle. These F-47s can sound quite loud and dread-like with medium strings. From the specs, Guild shipped these with medium strings.

One issue that I notice in my NH F-47s is that I can't completely straighten out the neck with the trussrod cranked to the max, but I can get to .008" so it's not a big deal.

 

[jeffcoop]

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I know you’re right, but I was also looking for a bit of variety (I have two ‘70s D-25). Plus, if playing with a pickup and through a PA, I’m not sure the body style matters as much.

That's an important point. I haave six or seven six-strings with K&K Pure Minis installed. Three of these ae Guilds, and three or four are from other makers. Among them, the guitars reflect a variety of body styles (an OM, several dreadnoughts, and I believe on grand auditorium); they have different body construction (one is an arch back dread, the rest are all flat backs), they have a variety of words for the back and sides (mahogany, East Indian rosewood), they have a variety of tops (Adirondack spruce, Sitka spruce, maybe one German spruce, and one mahogany to). Unplegged, they all sound pretty different. Plugged in, they all sound kind of like the K&K Pure Mini. Some difference remains, perhaps, but it's subtle, to the point where I wonder if I'm just imagining it.

 

[adorshki]

I know you’re right, but I was also looking for a bit of variety (I have two ‘70s D-25). Plus, if playing with a pickup and through a PA, I’m not sure the body style matters as much.

If you have a flat and an archback D25 you should be covered for rhythm. Back to the F47 for more versatility.
If both the '25's are archbacks, get the D40.

 

[GGJaguar]

If you have a flat and an archback D25 you should be covered for rhythm. Back to the F47 for more versatility.
If both the '25's are archbacks, get the D40.

It's all a numbers game anyway.

 

[E-Type]

If you have a flat and an archback D25 you should be covered for rhythm. Back to the F47 for more versatility.
If both the '25's are archbacks, get the D40.

I got a ‘70 flatback and a ‘74 archback.
I sent pics to my luthier who responded that he may be able to get the action to 5/64”, but if so, there will be no more adjustment possible. Such a shame that the guitar spent its best years hanging on a wall!

 

[valleyguy]

I have a ‘70 flatback all mahogany D-25 and a ‘74 arch back D-25.

I’d certainly go with a dreadnaught, then. I’d even go to a D50. I have a Tacoma D 50, an it’s a perfect complement to my D40 and the arch back D25 (which I sold). The Adirondack topped rosewood D50 is a great for strumming as well as leads and especially flat picking . Great warm tone and amplifies well. thats always my go to guitar that i will never part with.

good luck…By the way, when I bought the D50 I played a D40 and they are very similar in sound, so you really cant go wrong with either one.

 

[adorshki]

I got a ‘70 flatback and a ‘74 archback.
I sent pics to my luthier who responded that he may be able to get the action to 5/64”, but if so, there will be no more adjustment possible. Such a shame that the guitar spent its best years hanging on a wall!

Neck alignment check is mandatory to verify that.

 

[Bill Ashton]

There is a significant difference in sound between a maple F47 and a rosewood one (I own an NH F47 R). The maple may well be a good "stage guitar," especially if it has a DTAR installed. I always thought than the F47 was an Auditorium-sized guitar, though I have heard it
refered to it as an OM; regardless, it is dreadnaught-depth, which is what makes it different from the (older) F40. The Tacoma and NH builds are not the somewhat "mini-jumbo" outline body as done before under this model name.

What follows is a demo by our friend "Speedy"

 

[E-Type]

There is a significant difference in sound between a maple F47 and a rosewood one (I own an NH F47 R). The maple may well be a good "stage guitar," especially if it has a DTAR installed. I always thought than the F47 was an Auditorium-sized guitar, though I have heard it
refered to it as an OM; regardless, it is dreadnaught-depth, which is what makes it different from the (older) F40. The Tacoma and NH builds are not the somewhat "mini-jumbo" outline body as done before under this model name.

What follows is a demo by our friend "Speedy"

I’ve watched that video many times. Of course, it’s a New Hartford, not a Tocoma.

 

[E-Type]

Neck alignment check is mandatory to verify that.

Yep, he emphasized “maybe”

 

[E-Type]

I passed on this one. I'll keep my eyes open for a cheaper used one. At least then, potentially needing work won't be a deal breaker.