The Led Zeppelin Channel

[Midnight Toker]

That being said, and my irrelevant take on Plant aside, Led Zep II is my fave of their albums.

Presence for me. It is guitar army heaven, (Page often recorded multiple simple guitar parts in the vein of separate orchestra string sections. Individually they aren't all that impressive, but combined it's pure bliss.) Not to mention Presence probably has the best "right in your living room" sound and restrained production of any record by any major rock band. Bonzo' kit is like it's just 5 ft away from you. And they mainly recorded him w/ just 3 mics. 1 about a Ft in front of the kick, and 2 overhead mics. With Bonham's playing and his impeccably tuned kit, you just set up in a lively space and mic the room...then let him do his thing.

 

[Guildedagain]

This is just what the morning needs, magic page licks, funky Zeppelin.

 

[Guildedagain]

Evening Zeppelin, wild rambling Page solos.

 

[Guildedagain]

The ultimate Rock n Roll action figures?

 

[Midnight Toker]

a few gems have come out recently. All by diehard fans. First a multicam edit of We're Gonna Groove from Royal Albert Hall 1970.
Done by a very young Zep fan I know (LedZepfilm channel on youtube) Thisguy has serious video skills!


secondly... a very special first ever release of 20+ min of fan shot 8mm film from the historic attendance record breaking show at Pontiac Silverdome 1977 will be on youtube on New Years Eve. (also transfered and synced by Ledzepfilm)


This was a show where the mighty Zeps broke their own attendance record for a single artist by close to 20,000 people. (A record which stood for many decades…and is probably currently held by Taylor Swift. …ugh!

 

[Midnight Toker]

And for some Jimmy Page-Guild content…(the only I have ever seen in my 45 years as a all things Zep collector) …from the book in the Jimmy Page “Soundtracks” set…on a page of guitars used on the Deathwish II soundtrack…




Still have never seen a pic of him physically playing one. (And still looking!)

 

[schoolie]

My favorite Zeppelin tune

 

[Midnight Toker]

My favorite Zeppelin tune

my alltime fav as well...and I have literally over a hundred versions in my collection. 71 (and a few in 72) are my favorites.

 

[Harp Tail]

I think "For your life" and "Candy store rock" are two very underrated Zep tracks, and JPJ one of the most underrated musical geniuses of all times.

I was lucky enough to befriend Frank Barsalona when I used to work in shows production, and together we spent three unforgettable days in Rome after the artist had left.
He maintained that Zeppelin involuntarily became Ahmet Ertegun's (and Atlantic) proverbial 'Plan B" after Jeff Beck suddenly interrupted a fully sold out US tour with the Jeff Beck Group. Thanks again, Jeff!

 

[Harp Tail]

Jeez, for a minute there I thought I wandered into the new Drum Section!

In regards to the way Bonzo played, no other person has carried out an analysis as meticulous as the Bonhamologist has.

 

[Midnight Toker]

^Goerge Fludas is as good as it gets for all things Bonham. For me, my advice for any drummer wanting to learn Bonham's drumming, is to first learn Big Band/Jazz...then go play in a heavy rock band. You'll never truly get Bonham's real swing and swagger just by trying to imitate Zep directly. You really need to study the source first. (No one learns the blues from Kenny Wayne Sheppard!!)

 

[adorshki]

Huh, missed this first time 'round.

What's a Zep thread without the original band?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck's_Bolero

"With at least the outline of one song and Page on board to play guitar, Beck approached Keith Moon of the Who, whom he considered one of his favourite drummers.[3] Moon was unhappy with the Who at the time and readily agreed to participate.[3] To avoid a confrontation with Pete Townshend and Kit Lambert, the Who's manager, Moon wished to do so incognito.[6] He recommended bandmate John Entwistle, who was similarly discontented with the Who, to provide the bass.[7]...
The recording session took place at IBC Studios on 16 and 17 May 1966[8] (although a date after Beck left the Yardbirds in November 1966 has also been suggested).[2] Moon arrived at the studio disguised in sunglasses and a Russian cossack hat.[9] When Entwistle did not show, studio musicians John Paul Jones and Nicky Hopkins were brought in at the last minute to provide bass and piano.[10] There is an unsubstantiated account that Ritchie Blackmore may have been involved at the studio,[11] but his participation has not been acknowledged by Beck, Page, or others at the session.[10][12] Napier-Bell, the Yardbirds' producer who had originally promoted the idea, was present for the recording.[9]

Beck, Page, Hopkins, Jones, and Moon were pleased with the outcome of the recording session and there was talk of forming a working group and additional recordings.[7] This led to the famous quip, "Yeah, it'll go down like a lead zeppelin",[26] which Page later used, with a slight spelling change, for his new group.[12] Page ascribed it to Moon,[12] while Beck's and Led Zeppelin's later manager Peter Grant claimed Moon used the phrase "go down like a lead balloon", to which Entwistle added "more like a lead zeppelin".

[7] Group biographer Keith Shadwick notes that forming an actual group at the time "was never a realistic option", due to existing contractual obligations.[30]"

While the Yardbirds imploded a year later, Page was already drawing the blueprint for the new band:


And, just because, the album version:


And Jimmy says goodbye to Mickie Most, hello Kashmir......:


And of course most Zeppies know "Dazed and Confused" came from the 'birds:


When Jimmy joined the 'birds he was replacing the retiring bassist, until their current rhythm player could take it over. Footage (let alone recordings) of the Beck/Page lineup is scarcer than Mickie Most's artist's royalties.

He even got 'em on the Milton Berle Show (!)

Whose engineers did a magnificent job with a very unusual arrangement. ("Yes, the feedback is in there on purpose, kindly don't mess with it, please") Lip-synching at its finest, and nobody knew what heavy metal was yet. Especially in 1966 primetime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oNDXsIulXw

 

[DrumBob]

Any and all things Zeppelin. When you're lost in time, and that's how you prefer it.



Careful not to blow out your headphones, big bass.

Interesting stage antics at 29:29.

This is what they looked and sounded like when I saw them as an opening act at the Fillmore East. Without The Yardbirds, there would have been no Zeppelin. You can hear it on practically every song; the rave-ups, the Bolero thing, the breakdowns, the improvised lyrics. It all came from The Yardbirds. I was a huge Zeppelin fan for years, but I can't listen to them anymore. I've moved on. Plant is just too hard to take. I'm still a big Yardbirds fan though, and have seen them many times since they reformed in 1997. I even had the privilege to jam with them one night in a club in NYC. That was amazing.

 

[Bernie]

Watched the 1st half of the 1st video ; quite impressive to see what they can do with just a guitar, an amp, a voice and a microphone, a drum set and a bass with its amplifier, like naked...Very interesting view of how they were at the very beginning (I guess) before fame and glory (and huge stadiums and P.A. systems). It's basically the same conditions as any band could have in a large English pub or so at the time, and we can see it's all there ; talent and invention, skill and passion, guts and charisma...
I've never been a genuine Led Zeppelin fan, but gosh, they could really do it, and they didn't cheat there !

(but I've never known that Dazed and Confused was originally a Yardbirds' thing).

 

[Bernie]

Lol

Wow, they are fast at changing clothes, aren't they ?

 

[DrumBob]

(but I've never known that Dazed and Confused was originally a Yardbirds' thing)It was.

It was a tune The Yardbirds got from Jake Holmes, the guy who wrote it. The first time I saw The Yardbirds in '67 at the Village Theatre in NYC, Jake Holmes was the opening act. It was there The Yardbirds got the song from him, which they started playing live. I was at the Anderson Theatre in '68 when they recorded Live Yardbirds and they played "Dazed & Confused" that night.

 

[Midnight Toker]

I think "For your life" and "Candy store rock" are two very underrated Zep tracks, and JPJ one of the most underrated musical geniuses of all times.

I was lucky enough to befriend Frank Barsalona when I used to work in shows production, and together we spent three unforgettable days in Rome after the artist had left.
He maintained that Zeppelin involuntarily became Ahmet Ertegun's (and Atlantic) proverbial 'Plan B" after Jeff Beck suddenly interrupted a fully sold out US tour with the Jeff Beck Group. Thanks again, Jeff!

Not too sure about the last bit. Ertegun signed Zep to an at the time unheard of contract. Complete artistic control from the music to the album art, plus full ownership of their masters. Not to mention, Peter Grant managed both Zep and The Jeff Beck Group at the time and Zep was given the bulk of his attention. Ertegun knew Zep were going to take the world by storm.


And from another post, as for Dazed And Confused being a Yardbirds thing. It was a Page thing. (As was White Summer). From the moment Beck walked off the bus during the Dick Clark’s Caravan of Stars tour, not to return….the reigns of the Yardbirds were now fully in Page’s control. It was “his” vehicle. When they broke up, and Page and Grant started to look for new people to rebuild the band, 90% of the material for Zep I was ready to go. Had Relf, McCarty, Dreja not quit, they would have been the ones recording most of those early Zep tunes under the name The Yardbirds.(and would have been a shell of what they wound up being!) Thankfully, the stars aligned and Zep, a viable supergroup of handpicked talent, would take over as the world’s biggest band in less than 3 years.

 

[Midnight Toker]

It was a tune The Yardbirds got from Jake Holmes, the guy who wrote it. The first time I saw The Yardbirds in '67 at the Village Theatre in NYC, Jake Holmes was the opening act. It was there The Yardbirds got the song from him, which they started playing live. I was at the Anderson Theatre in '68 when they recorded Live Yardbirds and they played "Dazed & Confused" that night.

It was a tune Page got from Jake Holmes, and then wrote an expansive 6 part arrangement around the initial theme. The Yardbirds never thought of touching it until Page was at the helm and made it his showcase piece compete w/ violin bow segment. Sure, Page was IN the Yardbirds at the time, but it was all his doing.

 

[Bernie]

(......)
And from another post, as for Dazed And Confused being a Yardbirds thing. It was a Page thing. (As was White Summer). From the moment Beck walked off the bus during the Dick Clark’s Caravan of Stars tour, not to return….the reigns of the Yardbirds were now fully in Page’s control. It was “his” vehicle. (......)

'Dazed and Confused' a Page thing ? Humm...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTsvs-pAGDc (make up your own mind)
Now you said where it comes from Bob, I remembered this had been discussed already on some other Forum I read.

 

[Midnight Toker]

'Dazed and Confused' a Page thing ? Humm...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTsvs-pAGDc (make up your own mind)
Now you said where it comes from Bob, I remembered this had been discussed already on some other Forum I read.

Not saying it originated w/ Page….just that it wasn’t something the Yardbirds would have ever covered. It was purely Page that put it in their set list in their final year . As for arrangement of the piece Page finalized, about 3 minutes of it can be attributed directly to Jake Holmes, the other 10 min (and in Zep’s case 20-30 min) was all Page. Holmes got paid a pretty penny for it…plus partial credit.

There are other direct influences in Page’s arrangement as well. Namely Gustav Holst, Mars: The bringer of war, from his orchestral suite The Planets.