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These have already been posted in this thread, but just to perpetuate the often-discussed rumor that The Beatles only played Guild acoustics in bed...

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I think every left handed guitar player should think of building Paul Mc Cartney a statue, as he allowed them to get left handed Martins and possibly Guilds too...He had to play for a long time on a Martin that didn't even have the saddle in the right position for left handed players (Blackbird has been recorded on such guitar !!)
 

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I have to think someone already posted the Kingsmen playing Louie Louie but for the first time I saw the video and the guitar player with what I thought was a SF5 except it has a pair of white Franz pickups on it! So I think it is one of the very rair Bert Weldon hollow body SF5 type guitars.

So here is the link. I was reading an article about Todd Rundgren and he said "Louie Louie" was the song that changed him! He essentially said it was easy to play and no one knew what it was about or the words. So every young aspiring guitarist could play it and fake the lyrics. And it dawned on me he was right. Every young garage band of that era and the next 10 years played Louie Louie.

 

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Weren't all the Weedon guitars sold in England?
 

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That's a good question for Hans!
I just looked up the Bert Weedon guitar and the Guild he played had DeArmond pickups and not Franz. So it looks like the guitar in the Kingsmen has the Master Vol like the Weedon model but different pickups. So it's possible it is not a hollow body Weedon guitar after all. However to my knowledge I wasn't aware of a early SF5 model with Franz pickups.

Hopefully other will chime in on this subject.
 
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That's a good question for Hans!
I just looked up the Bert Weedon guitar and the Guild he played had DeArmond pickups and not Franz. So it looks like the guitar in the Kingsmen has the Master Vol like the Weedon model but different pickups. So it's possible it is not a hollow body Weedon guitar after all. However to my knowledge I wasn't aware of a early SF5 model with Franz pickups.

Hopefully other will chime in on this subject.
I was basing my comment on the Weedon model on his relative obscurity in the United States. I would guess most folks in the US who know Bert, only do so by being name-dropped by folks like Beck and Page in interviews. Unless they own Hans' book.

I'm pretty sure that the double-cut Starfires weren't introduced until after the Franz pickups were no longer standard, so it would have needed to be a custom/one-off, or modified.
 

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That's a good question for Hans!
I just looked up the Bert Weedon guitar and the Guild he played had DeArmond pickups and not Franz. So it looks like the guitar in the Kingsmen has the Master Vol like the Weedon model but different pickups. So it's possible it is not a hollow body Weedon guitar after all. However to my knowledge I wasn't aware of a early SF5 model with Franz pickups.
The guitar that Mike Mitchell of The Kingsmen is playing has DeArmond pickups.

Here's an older post from the past:


Sincerely,

Hans Moust
www.guitarsgalore.nl
 
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Interesting. Very familiar with Goldie & Libro when they were on Chapel St. in the 90's. I don't think they ever had any Guilds at that point, but a lot of Fender.

The Bert Weedon must have been pretty expensive in England back then, especially for the "Play in a Day" crowd it was aimed at.
 

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The Bert Weedon must have been pretty expensive in England back then, especially for the "Play in a Day" crowd it was aimed at.
In the 1963 UK catalog she was 208 pounds (the pricelists showed £sd ("pounds, shillings and pence").
According the CPI Inflation calculator £208 in 1963 is worth £5,371.31 today which would equal to US$6,782,17!

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compared to even higher 227 pounds for the Starfire V in the same catalog:

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In the 1963 UK catalog she was 208 pounds (the pricelists showed £sd ("pounds, shillings and pence").
According the CPI Inflation calculator £208 in 1963 is worth £5,371.31 today which would equal to US$6,782,17!

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compared to even higher 227 pounds for the Starfire V in the same catalog:

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Ralf
The Weedon model then works out to roughly $650 US dollars in 1963. I suspect there weren't a lot of folks willing to pony up that kind of money. The "average weekly pay" for a man working in industry in 1964 was £17 12s. Women made about half that.



For contrast, the 1963 US list price of an ES-335 was $315.
 

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What is that mod on the Starfire? Extra pup, I assume?
A Gibson bass pickup as found on the EB-0, EB-2 and EB-3. I think you would have to be pretty high to want one on your guitar. Or to cut up a Barney Kessel archtop for a third humbucker. Although that one looks like it had some custom pickup put in the neck, and the neck humbucker moved to the newly chopped hole in the middle of the top.
 

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A Gibson bass pickup as found on the EB-0, EB-2 and EB-3. I think you would have to be pretty high to want one on your guitar. Or to cut up a Barney Kessel archtop for a third humbucker.
Not getting the reference? I see Boz Scaggs with an SF-V with the EB-O p/u in middle position.


Although that one looks like it had some custom pickup put in the neck, and the neck humbucker moved to the newly chopped hole in the middle of the top.
Think you're describing Miller's guitar?
 

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I would guess most folks in the US who know Bert, only do so by being name-dropped by folks like Beck and Page in interviews.

Bert Weedon's name is included in the song lyrics to the Bonzo Dog Band's "We Are Normal" -- that's where I first heard it, in the early '70s.

I still had no idea who he was, however and, as there was no internet, there was no easy way to find out.
 
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