Any opinions about the A25 or A50?

Cvbinrichmond

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Hi Cary, I see you’ve been asking about your A50 in several threads recently. What is it that you want to know - is it more valuable based on the low serial number, what is means by the overbuilt comments, other people’s opinion about whether it is a good model guitar?

I did a review of my “opinion” when I bought mine three years ago and also did a comparison vs a NH F30R Std. Mine is also a first year (#74) so should compare similarly to yours.


I showed pictures of the inner bracing which was much thicker compared than the NH F30. This and heavier construction all around was somewhat typical of Westerly built guitars, which are by and large terrific guitars but often built like a tank. Perhaps some of the negative opinions were based on a belief that a heavy build on such a small body guitar would deaden the sound or responsiveness. I certainly didn’t find it true of mine but some others might have speculated or observed that problem.

I did find my A50 darker in tone than the F30, which is an all around more versatile guitar IMHO. It is not a “typical” fundamental Guild type of tone and perhaps that was a turn off to some. I do however love the tone of mine a lot for certain uses. Mine excels at finger style and slow melodies where the overtones don’t get a chance to build up and muddy things too much. It’s not great for hard or fast strumming. It is a very fine guitar for what it does, though is not a do-it-all kind of guitar like many Guild models can be. Perhaps that is another reason why some people don’t care for it. So be it, I like it!

Another reason for some negativity is the wide 1-13/16 inch neck that may make chording difficult for those who prefer a moderate neck width. I happen to find it a benefit, especially for what it was designed to do.

As for what it’s worth, value to most is based on cosmetic and structural condition and how it sounds. Don’t go by s/n alone. In fact sometimes a low s/n is not a good thing unless you are talking about highly collectible models. There have been several prototypes and very early numbered guitars talked about here. Sometimes they are good sometimes they are not. Sometimes in later renditions an unexpected early design flaw was improved upon. I had one high end custom which some called a prototype of the GSR series that I found nice but didn’t measure up in sound and dynamics to the later production release.

Occasionally a model or line might have a bad reputation, but there are always exceptions. Take the Contemporary Series for example. As a whole the series is known to have had serious design flaws which caused problems with many that were produced. Because of that they often sell for relatively less than other counterparts of the same era. However when you find a good one, such as the cedar top refurbished one I have, they are outstanding guitars but perhaps not a do-it all model either.

If it plays good, sounds good and is structurally sound that is all that matters. Don’t worry about opinions of other people who have not played your particular guitar. From what you’ve been telling us, you like how yours plays and sounds and it clearly looks super, so that is all that should matter. You found a good one, enjoy it!
Mike, no, I am not worried too much about the value other than I did not want to get cheated and I’m sure I did not. I think I got a great deal. I just wanted to know about things like the history and why they did not produce them long. I was also curious about a Yamaha …only 75 produced, but when I saw the prices were a lot lower on some on the internet, I felt I was getting ripped off plus the all Koa body seemed to keep down the volumn. Compared to my A50 guild, the Yamaha was second rate in tone and playability.
Thank you for all your thoughts and info on this guitar. It helped me a lot. I got all the info I was looking for and really enjoyed the conversations. I will talk to you later on in other conversations I’m sure.
Cary
 
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